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 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)



U mean those composers who lift and rehash...

There's a lot of irony in your post, considering Williams has lifted and rehashed himself in the past.


Point, set, match!



No, townerbarry didn't put it correctly. You can lift and rehash yourself - the biggest names in classical music have done that. But it's a different thing if you have "Star Wars" or "JFK" or "Born on the 4th of July" or "A.I." in your arsenal and you lift from those scores and another to lift from, let's say the RC/MV sea of mediocrity...

It is hilarious when people bash other composers for lifting and rehashing but give Williams a pass when he does it (like his wholesale borrowing of Delerue in Hook).

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 6:32 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)



U mean those composers who lift and rehash...

There's a lot of irony in your post, considering Williams has lifted and rehashed himself in the past.


Point, set, match!



No, townerbarry didn't put it correctly. You can lift and rehash yourself - the biggest names in classical music have done that. But it's a different thing if you have "Star Wars" or "JFK" or "Born on the 4th of July" or "A.I." in your arsenal and you lift from those scores and another to lift from, let's say the RC/MV sea of mediocrity...

It is hilarious when people bash other composers for lifting and rehashing but give Williams a pass when he does it (like his wholesale borrowing of Delerue in Hook).



It is quite hilarious but I answered that two posts above.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 7:54 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

How is this surprising? He'll be almost NINETY by the time he finishes his work on Episode 9.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2018 - 8:00 PM   
 By:   pete   (Member)

He retired from Jaws movies back in the 70s.

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2018 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

Now, were the STAR WARS films are getting more worse and worse each time, it`s the best thing the man can do:
leaving the wracky ship.

Williams score was truly the only thing (besides Mark Hamill), i liked in Episode 8.
I would like to hear another, last Star Wars score of him (and in a way like the thought,
that this man managed to do ALL 9 films, wich were announced by Lucas a long long time ago).
But i defenitly don`t want to see another (bad) Star Wars movie!

John Williams should spend his last years with better and more inspiring films!

Let`s just hope that the will not retire COMPLETE and that he will have some fine years before him (with or without working for films)!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2018 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

I don't mind him doing so. To be honest, I thought he would have retired from Star Wars at least twice before - first, when the original trilogy ended and second, after the Prequels. Both times I imagined cinematic Star Wars was over. But since it keeps coming back and apparently is here to stay indefinitely I think he should go out on an opus like episode 9.

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2018 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   CitizenJoe   (Member)

Now, were the STAR WARS films are getting more worse and worse each time, it`s the best thing the man can do:
leaving the wracky ship.

Williams score was truly the only thing (besides Mark Hamill), i liked in Episode 8.
I would like to hear another, last Star Wars score of him (and in a way like the thought,
that this man managed to do ALL 9 films, wich were announced by Lucas a long long time ago).
But i defenitly don`t want to see another (bad) Star Wars movie!

John Williams should spend his last years with better and more inspiring films!

Let`s just hope that the will not retire COMPLETE and that he will have some fine years before him (with or without working for films)!


I agree completely. My once beloved Star Wars has finally lost my interest. John Williams has not. Let's hear whatever else he wants to give us and be done with it.

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2018 - 5:29 PM   
 By:   pete   (Member)

Let`s just hope that the will not retire COMPLETE and that he will have some fine years before him (with or without working for films)!

He's said many times he'll continue to write music as long as he's able. There's no retiring when you love what you do.

 
 Posted:   Mar 7, 2018 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   John Schuermann   (Member)

Maybe why that's why there was a quote from his score to "The Long Goodbye" in The Last Jedi.

Maybe I missed it, but I never noticed any posts on this board pointing out the use of the song in the film...

Curious too how it made it in there - Williams idea or Johnson's? If Johnson's, it shows a pretty deep familiarity with Williams' catalog (just like the Penelope track used in "Ted").

 
 Posted:   Mar 7, 2018 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)



U mean those composers who lift and rehash...

There's a lot of irony in your post, considering Williams has lifted and rehashed himself in the past.


Point, set, match!



No, townerbarry didn't put it correctly. You can lift and rehash yourself - the biggest names in classical music have done that. But it's a different thing if you have "Star Wars" or "JFK" or "Born on the 4th of July" or "A.I." in your arsenal and you lift from those scores and another to lift from, let's say the RC/MV sea of mediocrity...

It is hilarious when people bash other composers for lifting and rehashing but give Williams a pass when he does it (like his wholesale borrowing of Delerue in Hook).


It's mostly his Spielberg scores that have the temp track influence.

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2018 - 4:50 AM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)



U mean those composers who lift and rehash...

There's a lot of irony in your post, considering Williams has lifted and rehashed himself in the past.


Point, set, match!



No, townerbarry didn't put it correctly. You can lift and rehash yourself - the biggest names in classical music have done that. But it's a different thing if you have "Star Wars" or "JFK" or "Born on the 4th of July" or "A.I." in your arsenal and you lift from those scores and another to lift from, let's say the RC/MV sea of mediocrity...


Was NOT talking about Johnny T..I was talking about that one composer that lifted and rehashed his own scores..over and over and over again..but..cannot today. Plus Tyler something nother....

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2018 - 4:55 AM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

He should retire. Well deserved. Frankly I don't think his music fits in with today's narrative. Time to move on.


Maybe u can take over...please link your own music..so that others can hear the great potential.

Waiting for your links!

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2018 - 6:05 AM   
 By:   Maarten   (Member)

For Williams it has been a long journey to that galaxy far, far away in which he matured as time went by. It’s so great to look (and hear) back on that! I think one of the main reasons he’s still on board is that’s it just so much fun for him to do it. I’m sure he considers Star Wars an incredibly wild and grateful opportunity to compose music for. There’s nothing like it. He created this opus and built upon it layer by layer. But it’s good that he moves on after ep. 9 I think, before things get too formulaic, film- and music-wise. For such a revered, professional craftsman like him it’s a well-deserved and satisfying way to round of this enormous body of work. I think I’ll do the same: I’ll close the book after number 9. It’s enough, I don’t want to become tired of it. (for comparison, I stopped watching the Hobbit trilogy because I didn’t want to spoil my memories of the LOTR trilogy) It was a wild ride, with ups and downs and of course the original three films will always have a place in my heart. These are what it all started. There will be new audiences for the new films in the future and I can only hope that they’ll find something original to expand on. Thanks John, I’m sure you read this. Luckily there's still one episode to go!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2018 - 6:13 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

And we all know that episode 9 will be the right place for him to stop. The end of the 'proper' series. The saga. Everything else is a spin-off, however good some of them might be.

 
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