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 Posted:   Sep 3, 2017 - 4:45 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

Nothing wrong with Diana Krall sir, love her stuff.

Does the world really need another release of ET music?


See above. I'm interested in potentially hearing the original album tracks for the first time. I suspect complete score on CD1 and original album on CD2.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2017 - 6:26 PM   
 By:   rickO   (Member)

I heartily believe this set is justified and warranted. It's one of 20th Century's most important movie scores. It is one of J.W.'s top 10 best scores he ever did (in my opinion, but I am sure many would agree). Just as Star Wars, Ben-Hur, The Ten Commandments, or Star Trek: The Motion Picture (and many others) deserved the curated, all-inclusive treatement, do does E.T. The Extraterrestrial. The 1996 and 2002 products are perfectly well-done releases, but are a mixed bag. It is time that we get everything collected into one set, and be done with it. We can only hope that all of the master tapes and elements were available and intact; we still don't know for sure. Either way, I am sure this set will deliver the best possible product. I never understood why people gripe about these re-issues like it's a cardinal sin. For those who don't want it, don't buy it. I, for one, have been waiting forever for E.T. to finally happen in this manner, and I celebrate Mike Mattesino and his efforts!!

-Rick O.

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2017 - 7:06 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

Ageed Rick. This is the first time everything (presumably) is complete and in one package. If this edition sells out and is released again in five years, that's a reissue. Hopefully, as you say, elements aren't a problem. Mike M.'s comments are a bit worrying what with him believing things need to be cobbled together. With luck the situation changed since he wrote that.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2017 - 9:53 PM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

Funny thing is I prefer the version of the end title on the 1996 edition, with the additional flute lines and percussion noodling above the theme vs. the less frilly version used in the film.

 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 12:24 AM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)

I never understood why people gripe about these re-issues like it's a cardinal sin. For those who don't want it, don't buy it.

Agreed. In fact, let us go a step further and say that those who don't want it should not complain at all about it. Many, many of us look forward to this wonderful treatment by LLL and Mattesino of one of the finest - if not the finest - scores by John Williams. We certainly don't need anyone derailing the thread with their contempt for this release.

 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   FarTraveler   (Member)

Some comments posted by Brownie back in 2010 which may be of interest:

The incomparable Michael Matessino had this to say a while back:


Thanks for posting that information. I own all 3 releases on CD and was going to take a pass on yet another one but Matessino's description persuaded me that I must buy it. Incomparable indeed!!

 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   King Solium   (Member)

E.T. and CEOT3K are two classic scores which needed "definitive" releases. How is this even a question?

 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   digitalfreaknyc   (Member)

E.T. and CEOT3K are two classic scores which needed "definitive" releases. How is this even a question?

Well, tbh, E.T. Had an isolated score on the laserdisc so it's not like there's any part of the score that we don't already have.

 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

E.T. and CEOT3K are two classic scores which needed "definitive" releases. How is this even a question?

Well, tbh, E.T. Had an isolated score on the laserdisc so it's not like there's any part of the score that we don't already have.


Well, that's great for the 10 people in the world that still own that laserdisc plus a way to play the disc, but pretty much 99.99% of everyone else will be happy to own this on a great sounding CD.

 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   digitalfreaknyc   (Member)

E.T. and CEOT3K are two classic scores which needed "definitive" releases. How is this even a question?

Well, tbh, E.T. Had an isolated score on the laserdisc so it's not like there's any part of the score that we don't already have.


Well, that's great for the 10 people in the world that still own that laserdisc plus a way to play the disc, but pretty much 99.99% of everyone else will be happy to own this on a great sounding CD.


Right. Cuz no one on here has a CD recording of that entire score? Gimme a break. I'm very happy about this score being officially released but there's nothing earth-shattering or momentous about it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   King Solium   (Member)

E.T. and CEOT3K are two classic scores which needed "definitive" releases. How is this even a question?

Well, tbh, E.T. Had an isolated score on the laserdisc so it's not like there's any part of the score that we don't already have.


Well, that's great for the 10 people in the world that still own that laserdisc plus a way to play the disc, but pretty much 99.99% of everyone else will be happy to own this on a great sounding CD.


Right. Cuz no one on here has a CD recording of that entire score? Gimme a break. I'm very happy about this score being officially released but there's nothing earth-shattering or momentous about it.


Umm, I don't. And I don't have a way or ripping isolated scores either. I would like the OST remastered. I also want an "official" CD release with artwork, liner notes, etc.

 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   CitizenJoe   (Member)

Mike M.'s comments are a bit worrying what with him believing things need to be cobbled together. With luck the situation changed since he wrote that.

Mike M. made some comments about how fans could use the existing releases to create their own "perfect" presentations of the score. Presumably, this was before this new project came along and there is no reason to think those comments had anything to do with the state of the session elements or the assembly of the new album.

 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   CitizenJoe   (Member)

E.T. and CEOT3K are two classic scores which needed "definitive" releases. How is this even a question?

Well, tbh, E.T. Had an isolated score on the laserdisc so it's not like there's any part of the score that we don't already have.


Well, that's great for the 10 people in the world that still own that laserdisc plus a way to play the disc, but pretty much 99.99% of everyone else will be happy to own this on a great sounding CD.


Right. Cuz no one on here has a CD recording of that entire score? Gimme a break. I'm very happy about this score being officially released but there's nothing earth-shattering or momentous about it.


Not for an apparent pirate like yourself. It is earth shattering for others however.

 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

E.T. and CEOT3K are two classic scores which needed "definitive" releases. How is this even a question?

Well, tbh, E.T. Had an isolated score on the laserdisc so it's not like there's any part of the score that we don't already have.


Well, that's great for the 10 people in the world that still own that laserdisc plus a way to play the disc, but pretty much 99.99% of everyone else will be happy to own this on a great sounding CD.


Right. Cuz no one on here has a CD recording of that entire score? Gimme a break. I'm very happy about this score being officially released but there's nothing earth-shattering or momentous about it.


Umm, I don't. And I don't have a way or ripping isolated scores either. I would like the OST remastered. I also want an "official" CD release with artwork, liner notes, etc.


I don't either, I only have the CD of the original album.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Well, I have the original 82 LP, the subsequent CD of same. The first expanded CD edition, the 2nd expanded edition, the two missing cues (John Wayne kiss, We're Losing Him film version) on a CD-R AND the wacky Michael Jackson narrated story LP box set, BUT I still want this upgraded new double disc edition if it's been lovingly restored by Mike M and comes wrapped in that LaLaLand perfect way.
If it's got the Botanicus Theme Ride music too, well...I'll be a pig in shit smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

E.T. and CEOT3K are two classic scores which needed "definitive" releases. How is this even a question?

Well, tbh, E.T. Had an isolated score on the laserdisc so it's not like there's any part of the score that we don't already have.

Well, that's great for the 10 people in the world that still own that laserdisc plus a way to play the disc, but pretty much 99.99% of everyone else will be happy to own this on a great sounding CD.


It always astounds me when people say there's no need for an expansion of such-and-such a score because there was an isolated score (usually with film edits and volume fluctuations) on the DVD. Even if the music was level and intact, it's not like you can take the music with you in the car or while out running, or put it in your iTunes and arrange it however you like. You'd have to be in a room with a TV and have the movie playing in the background (and wait out the gaps between where music plays in the film). Some people, you wonder what planet they're coming from and why their civilization hasn't destroyed itself yet.

 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Even if the music was level and intact, it's not like you can take the music with you in the car or while out running, or put it in your iTunes and arrange it however you like. You'd have to be in a room with a TV and have the movie playing in the background (and wait out the gaps between where music plays in the film). Some people, you wonder what planet they're coming from and why their civilization hasn't destroyed itself yet.

I think their civilization has avoided destruction by realizing that music can be transferred to a different format very easily, and thus with minimal work, an isolated track can be made into digital music files which can be burned to CD or loaded into iTunes.

I don't agree with digitalfreaknyc that this release is redundant, mind you. But I don't think we have to invent specious reasoning to prove him wrong.

 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 2:40 PM   
 By:   jurassicmarc   (Member)

Why are soundtrack fans complaining about a complete soundtrack getting released?

Were you guys complaining about the multiple releases of Die Hard and Poltergeist II?

Or what about movies that already had isolated scores like Bad Boys, Edward Scissorhands, Mars Attacks, The Matrix?

I don't think I've seen more complaints for a release than I have for E.T. and I'm not sure why. Enthusiasm for one soundtrack is enthusiasm for all soundtracks. Without it, nobody would bother researching and remastering and releasing them. Soundtrack collecting is a niche interest that needs support.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Even if the music was level and intact, it's not like you can take the music with you in the car or while out running, or put it in your iTunes and arrange it however you like. You'd have to be in a room with a TV and have the movie playing in the background (and wait out the gaps between where music plays in the film). Some people, you wonder what planet they're coming from and why their civilization hasn't destroyed itself yet.

I think their civilization has avoided destruction by realizing that music can be transferred to a different format very easily, and thus with minimal work, an isolated track can be made into digital music files which can be burned to CD or loaded into iTunes.

I don't agree with digitalfreaknyc that this release is redundant, mind you. But I don't think we have to invent specious reasoning to prove him wrong.


Your average film score fan has the tools and the know-how to extract audio files from DVDs or Blu-rays? And I suppose they also know how to expertly balance volume fluctuations and cleanly complete truncated cues? Am I one of the precious few technology-backwards film score fans who's been missing out?

 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Your average film score fan has the tools and the know-how to extract audio files from DVDs or Blu-rays? And I suppose they also know how to expertly balance volume fluctuations and cleanly complete truncated cues?

I don't know what the average film score fan can and can't do. But I do know that what digitalfreaknyc is talking about is not listening to a laserdisc in his home with pauses between the music (he is a digital freak, after all). And your premise was that "the music was level and intact," so no fluctuations or truncations in that scenario.

In any event, I have the tools and know-how, but I generally don't have the will. So I am looking forward to this CD, which will also certainly have music not used in the film (we know there are variations), and thus not on that laserdisc, which I haven't owned in a decade anyway.

My only point is, the civilization-destroying scenario you were describing isn't what digitalfreaknyc was talking about.

 
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