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I'll pledge when I get paid in about three weeks. I rewatched a few Bond films over Christmas and went out and bought all the 2003 remasters that HMV had in stock over new year.
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Jan 10, 2015 - 1:17 PM
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Chris Avis
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As someone who really doesn't like John Barry's scores, and absolutely hates Moonraker, can I please ask a serious question to Barry and Bond fans? Which is, is the score really THAT popular with you guys? And is there really that much more music to release?.
Moonraker is probably not one of the great bond scores, but it's far from the worst. The appeal for me has always been the beautiful, majestic space cues which set this score apart from most of the other Bond scores. That and Shirley Bassey's incredibly gorgeous title song which is amongst my favorite of the bond songs. Speaking of which, how will this be handled in the re-recording? Could they maybe get Bassey herself to re-record it?
As far as I'm concerned, the Kickstarter folks need not justify the score to someone who doesn't like Barry or this particular score. So long as there's enough people who love it to raise the funds, that's all they need. As for the people griping about why another score wasn't selected for the Kickstarter project, why not launch your own Kickstarter?
This will be an interesting test case. If something with a fan base as big as the Bond films can't get funding, what could?
Chris.
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Jan 10, 2015 - 1:23 PM
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TerraEpon
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Ok, while I *love* the idea of a KS for a re-recording, as JC noted above there's a LOT more info that should be on there. I've seen quite a large amount of Kickstarter projects and the ones that make the most money usually have the following:
-A large amount of backer incentives. There's exactly ONE, and that's the CD. Someone above mentioned invitations to the sessions, definetly a good one for a high bid. Another idea would high def (either digital files or a Blu-Ray) as a higher tier. Even put in a "$1 support tier" would probably get a lot more people throwing in something rather than nothing.
As it stands now, people don't have much reason to donate a lot, Give them more reason to. Just look at some of the video game KS and see how much people are willing to give.
-There's very little info. An actual informational video describing why you want to use KS and other things is a very good idea. Just showing a video of a different recording isn't too helpful.
-Stretch Goals. Not too sure what you could add here, outside of bonus tracks. No idea how long the score runs but if there's room on CD it could easily be dedicated toward more. Hell, make it an incentive to get high enough and have a whole other CD (maybe including a complete short Barry score that wouldn't be worth it standalone, that wouldn't be too difficult to make a recording of....if any such things exist).
-I'[m sure there's more I've forgotten to type here....but yeah.
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Jan 10, 2015 - 1:43 PM
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Solium
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Ok, while I *love* the idea of a KS for a re-recording, as JC noted above there's a LOT more info that should be on there. I've seen quite a large amount of Kickstarter projects and the ones that make the most money usually have the following:
-A large amount of backer incentives. There's exactly ONE, and that's the CD. Someone above mentioned invitations to the sessions, definetly a good one for a high bid. Another idea would high def (either digital files or a Blu-Ray) as a higher tier. Even put in a "$1 support tier" would probably get a lot more people throwing in something rather than nothing.
As it stands now, people don't have much reason to donate a lot, Give them more reason to. Just look at some of the video game KS and see how much people are willing to give.
-There's very little info. An actual informational video describing why you want to use KS and other things is a very good idea. Just showing a video of a different recording isn't too helpful.
-Stretch Goals. Not too sure what you could add here, outside of bonus tracks. No idea how long the score runs but if there's room on CD it could easily be dedicated toward more. Hell, make it an incentive to get high enough and have a whole other CD (maybe including a complete short Barry score that wouldn't be worth it standalone, that wouldn't be too difficult to make a recording of....if any such things exist).
-I'[m sure there's more I've forgotten to type here....but yeah.
How about lunch with Thor? 
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Jan 10, 2015 - 2:20 PM
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Mike_J
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As someone who really doesn't like John Barry's scores, and absolutely hates Moonraker, can I please ask a serious question to Barry and Bond fans? Which is, is the score really THAT popular with you guys? And is there really that much more music to release?
Ignore Thor, Mike. You asked your question properly.
I can only speak for myself but in the case of Moonraker, I think the fact that the masters are lost is what makes everyone want it so badly. Aside from the fact that most here grew up on the Moore era films and the John Barry fandom (both separate and involved with Bond), the fact that it has the LEAST likely chance for an expansion makes people want it.
I rather enjoy the score myself (though the hoverboat sequence always makes me wince) particularly the "space ballet" cut or the shuttle docking music. I honestly don't remember if there's a ton of music missing.
I'd be curious if this gets funded, if Tadlow would be willing to do The Spy Who Loved Me (not a score I care for but it's masters are also missing) or License To Kill.
Well, you make some valid points. But I grew up with Sir Rog's Bond (he remains my favourite 007 to this day) but I actually much prefer the scores to LALD, TSWLM and FYEO than Barry's scores. In Moonraker, some of the space station stuff is quite nice but the action cues are just horrible and the song is just risible.
I wasn't aware the master tapes were missing and so that kind of explains the interst in Moonraker a lot more so Im obliged to you for that.
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