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 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Ive always hated Moonraker and always cite the cue for the speedboat chase in the Amazon as being, IMHO, the worst scored action sequence of any Bond film ever so I am just mystified that Moinraker should be in such demand.


Jesus, I love that cue! And it's use in the film. I really do. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm totally with you, Mike. I've never liked James Bond (except the latest versions) and I've never been a fan of Barry -- although he's a fantastic writer of themes. I adore his themes, but don't think I've ever been able to sit through a whole album.

Be that as it may, I think this MOONRAKER album has the potential to sell well should it ever get off the ground. The fanbase is there.

I also think a limited release of STORY OF A WOMAN would sell out, due to Williams' fanbase and the fantastic nature of the music (basically JANE EYRE 2). So if that project could grow out of the MOONRAKER project somehow, I'm game!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

I cannot understand the hate some people are expressing towards this score. Barry's space cues in MOONRAKER easily surpass anything any other composer wrote for Bond. The delicacy in texture for the choral parts, the overall ethereal quality of the whole score....are you guys kidding? This is beautiful music that would benefit IMMENSELY with a proper recording (the original release is awful-sounding).
And, while I will admit music taste is an entirely subjective matter, I think it is plain classless and poor education to force debate here about what Tadlow should or should not be recording. Start your own thread, for goodness' sake...

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   JC   (Member)

Start your own thread, for goodness' sake...Alex

Yes, indeed! The campaign on Kickstarter looks absolutely unprofessional. The failure of the project is quite probable. We don't need a discussion about the score, we need advices for Mr. Fitzpatrick to improve the campaign.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

James, will the signed copy of the score be the full conductor's score with every cue? If so, I will gladly up my pledge to 100!

Same here! I will put up my pledge for 100 pounds if it is indeed the full conductor's score with every cue.

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

A lot of folks like me want to see/hear samples of the final product before putting out our hard earned money. There's also the impulse buyers and random buyers, neither of which come into factor with crowd funding.

OK, then this is not for you. It is for people who already know and like the music and are very confident in James's proven ability to produce great film music recordings.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 2:40 PM   
 By:   mfox   (Member)

Is it just me or as Nic Raine's work on John Barry's score been a little hit-or-miss. I haven't listened to his Bond Back in Action discs for a while, but don't seem to remember being overly impressed with them. I do enjoy the John Debney/RSNO "Somewhere in Time" though.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 2:40 PM   
 By:   indyray   (Member)

I,m just a owner of a future rerecording Score from Moonraker John Barry.
Spend 10 Dollars and contribute.Thanks for this.
Lol,I can say in the future i was a CD producer.
But to be honest i do appreciate this way,so we have in the future the complete score of LEGEND.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Gorgogorgo   (Member)

I'm in.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

A lot of folks like me want to see/hear samples of the final product before putting out our hard earned money. There's also the impulse buyers and random buyers, neither of which come into factor with crowd funding.

OK, then this is not for you. It is for people who already know and like the music and are very confident in James's proven ability to produce great film music recordings.


You entirely missed my point. Companies are erroneously setting up Kickstarter campaigns as a way to gauge interest in a product. There are to many missing variables with this tactic.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   Matt B   (Member)

Contributed. Hope it gets funded!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   Mr. Shark   (Member)

A question for Jamses Fitzpatrick: will Nic Raine be relying on handwritten scores, or will he be transcribing everything by ear?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)


And, while I will admit music taste is an entirely subjective matter, I think it is plain classless and poor education to force debate here about what Tadlow should or should not be recording. Start your own thread, for goodness' sake...

Alex


What a brilliant, mature and cogent argument you have put forward there Alex. You've certainly showed your education and class. Did you write that all on your own or did you get a grown up to help you with the big words?

Sarcasm aside, as one who has questioned why Tadlow would want to record Moonraker (which I feel I did in a polite way) I happen to think that your comment about class and education is just idiotic and frankly insulting. This forum would be pretty damn dull if eveyone only ever posted in threads they agreed with. I don't think anyone has been rude about James' Kickstarter project, but have simply queried the merits of the enterprise and also whether there might be better projects to pursue. Personally ive found that quite an interesting debate and whilst I would personally rather stick needles in my eyes than buy another recording of Moonraker (I have the OST and never play it) I have no malice or ill- will towards the project at all. And Ive not seen any post from anyone else that suggests they are against the project.

But anytime you want to compare education, class and respective lifestyles built on those factors, then perhaps we could indeed start our own thread. As long as we clear it with you first I take it?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


And, while I will admit music taste is an entirely subjective matter, I think it is plain classless and poor education to force debate here about what Tadlow should or should not be recording. Start your own thread, for goodness' sake...

Alex


What a brilliant, mature and cogent argument you have put forward there Alex. You've certainly showed your education and class. Did you write that all on your own or did you get a grown up to help you with the big words?

Sarcasm aside, as one who has questioned why Tadlow would want to record Moonraker (which I feel I did in a polite way) I happen to think that your comment about class and education is just idiotic and frankly insulting. This forum would be pretty damn dull if eveyone only ever posted in threads they agreed with. I don't think anyone has been rude about James' Kickstarter project, but have simply queried the merits of the enterprise and also whether there might be better projects to pursue. Personally ive found that quite an interesting debate and whilst I would personally rather stick needles in my eyes than buy another recording of Moonraker (I have the OST and never play it) I have no malice or ill- will towards the project at all. And Ive not seen any post from anyone else that suggests they are against the project.

But anytime you want to compare education, class and respective lifestyles built on those factors, then perhaps we could indeed start our own thread. As long as we clear it with you first I take it?



So, Mike - you in or out? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)



So, Mike - you in or out? smile


I'm saving my pennies for a Kickstarter project to re-score that turgid speedboat scene from Moonraker with the "Runaway" cue from For Your Eyes Only.

wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)



What a brilliant, mature and cogent argument you have put forward there Alex. You've certainly showed your education and class. Did you write that all on your own or did you get a grown up to help you with the big words?

Sarcasm aside, as one who has questioned why Tadlow would want to record Moonraker (which I feel I did in a polite way) I happen to think that your comment about class and education is just idiotic and frankly insulting. This forum would be pretty damn dull if eveyone only ever posted in threads they agreed with. I don't think anyone has been rude about James' Kickstarter project, but have simply queried the merits of the enterprise and also whether there might be better projects to pursue. Personally ive found that quite an interesting debate and whilst I would personally rather stick needles in my eyes than buy another recording of Moonraker (I have the OST and never play it) I have no malice or ill- will towards the project at all. And Ive not seen any post from anyone else that suggests they are against the project.

But anytime you want to compare education, class and respective lifestyles built on those factors, then perhaps we could indeed start our own thread. As long as we clear it with you first I take it?


Funny how you criticize my words for being insulting by describing my post with adjectives such as "idiotic", not to mention your ill-purposed sarcasm towards my age and nationality. THAT's classless. If anything, you have just proved my point.

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

You entirely missed my point. Companies are erroneously setting up Kickstarter campaigns as a way to gauge interest in a product. There are too many missing variables with this tactic.

This Kickstarter campaign is about actually creating a product. I assume it does not exist without this £25,000 in funding, hence the campaign. You want to go into the future and get sound clips of some thing that does not exist yet.

Fans say they want this product. One option is to put $30 or whatever in the pot and see how it comes out. The other option is to sit on the sidelines and hope other people do it so you can check out a few sound clips if it gets funded and comes to Screen Archives later this year.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 3:41 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)



What a brilliant, mature and cogent argument you have put forward there Alex. You've certainly showed your education and class. Did you write that all on your own or did you get a grown up to help you with the big words?

Sarcasm aside, as one who has questioned why Tadlow would want to record Moonraker (which I feel I did in a polite way) I happen to think that your comment about class and education is just idiotic and frankly insulting. This forum would be pretty damn dull if eveyone only ever posted in threads they agreed with. I don't think anyone has been rude about James' Kickstarter project, but have simply queried the merits of the enterprise and also whether there might be better projects to pursue. Personally ive found that quite an interesting debate and whilst I would personally rather stick needles in my eyes than buy another recording of Moonraker (I have the OST and never play it) I have no malice or ill- will towards the project at all. And Ive not seen any post from anyone else that suggests they are against the project.

But anytime you want to compare education, class and respective lifestyles built on those factors, then perhaps we could indeed start our own thread. As long as we clear it with you first I take it?


Funny how you criticize my words for being insulting by describing my post with adjectives such as "idiotic", not to mention your ill-purposed sarcasm towards my age and nationality. THAT's classless. If anything, you have just proved my point.



Okay guys - one goal each, let's call it a tie. It won't get Moonraker re-recorded if the thread's locked!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Okay guys - one goal each, let's call it a tie. It won't get Moonraker re-recorded if the thread's locked!

Awww, don't be like that TG, I'm enjoying Alex showing his superior breeding and education!

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

You entirely missed my point. Companies are erroneously setting up Kickstarter campaigns as a way to gauge interest in a product. There are too many missing variables with this tactic.

This Kickstarter campaign is about actually creating a product. I assume it does not exist without this £25,000 in funding, hence the campaign. You want to go into the future and get sound clips of some thing that does not exist yet.

Fans say they want this product. One option is to put $30 or whatever in the pot and see how it comes out. The other option is to sit on the sidelines and hope other people do it so you can check out a few sound clips if it gets funded and comes to Screen Archives later this year.


Just to be clear I hope they get the funding. If I like the samples I will purchase it. My fear is it won't get funded and that will convince everyone else, not to release this score in full ever.

 
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