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 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   indyray   (Member)

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 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

As someone who really doesn't like John Barry's scores, and absolutely hates Moonraker, can I please ask a serious question to Barry and Bond fans? Which is, is the score really THAT popular with you guys? And is there really that much more music to release?

I'm honestly not trolling here, and for those of you who do want the score I genuinely wish James and his Crowd funding project the bet of luck, but it's just the Kickstarter page states that Moonraker is one of the most requested of movie scores and I just find that hard to believe.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Be careful, Mike....

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   indyray   (Member)

Can't they just crowd fund and record the missing music and combine it with the OST? Wouldn't it be a lot cheaper?

I like this great idea!
But i prefer a complete rerecording ofcourse.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

FYI

Added incentives have been added to the Kickstarter page.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/681802762/moonraker-new-recording


Cor blimey - what goes round comes round. It literally is a film score by month.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

As someone who really doesn't like John Barry's scores, and absolutely hates Moonraker, can I please ask a serious question to Barry and Bond fans? Which is, is the score really THAT popular with you guys? And is there really that much more music to release?

I'm honestly not trolling here, and for those of you who do want the score I genuinely wish James and his Crowd funding project the bet of luck, but it's just the Kickstarter page states that Moonraker is one of the most requested of movie scores and I just find that hard to believe.


It has cross over appeal with Bond and Sci Fi score fans. I'm actually not a huge Barry fan. He's alright but I only need three of his scores. Moonraker, Black Hole and Somewhere In Time.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

My understanding is that the original CD has 15 minutes of music missing. Also the sound quality of the CD is far from stellar.

James Fitzpatrick/Nic Raine's recent score recordings have been spectacular and the CPSO do a great job so it would be wonderful to hear this score with the benefit of modern recording techniques

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)

Even if this doesn't come off, it will be interesting to see how much interest there is in crowdfunding a new recording.

Just a thought, would it be worth putting on the page the reason why a new recording is necessary?

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Hopefully this "experiment" will work and perhaps more will follow - it would be especially nice to get more Steiner re-recordings from TFC!

The truth is that something like Moonraker with massive fan base has much better chance to get financed than something as obscure as that Williams' score or any of those lost gems by Bernstein or Jarre... or perhaps even Battle Beyond the Stars. But hopefully if this will be sucessful we'll see more KS campaigns like this in the future.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Oh Thor, saying "I don't mean to…" followed by doing that thing is a disingenuous rhetorical device. You do mean to, and you want everybody to know it, despite your parenthetical claims otherwise.

I'm not suggesting you want this to fail, but you sure as hell want everybody to know that you're not getting what you want, and that what you want is superior.

I don't mean to be harsh, but this is an insincere and arrogant post, no matter how you try to couch it.



Best FSM post of 2015 so far.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


I'm not saying you need to have ALL THOSE THINGS but a couple more would help. First 5 people to donate over £100 get a page of sheet music. First 20 people to donate over £50 get the option to have the album signed by the conductor. That sorta thing.


The deluxe Jaws action figure edition:

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   JC   (Member)

I would suggest to add some more information about the following topics to attract people who aren't familiar with the composer, the score and Tadlow Music, but just like the film and its atmosphere:

-Why do you want the backer's money to re-record that score? What's special about that score? What's the story behind the original recording? - You don't sell a product on Kickstarter. You sell some kind of vision!

-Information about the number of tracks. How many tracks are missing on the actual release? Do you have the original sheets of music?

-Information about the orchestra, the conductor and the recording engineering

-Some words about the legal aspects to prove that you don't want the money to produce a bootleg

-Quotes from positive reviews of some of your recent recordings

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Be careful, Mike....

Why, Thor? It's a sincere question from someone who has never got the love for John Barry at all. I was watching Hanover Street this afternoon and seriously thought the score was terrible and intrusive.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

My understanding is that the original CD was 15 minutes of music missing. Also the sound quality of the CD is far from stellar.

James Fitzpatrick/Nic Raine's recent score recordings have been spectacular and the CPSO do a great job so it would be wonderful to hear this score with the benefit of modern recording techniques



Absolutely. Moonraker is one of my least favourite Bond films, and the score is low down on my list of John Barry's Bonds. So naturally I've made a pledge! I'm sure it'll be a great re-recording and can't wait to hear it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Be careful, Mike....

Why, Thor? It's a sincere question from someone who has never got the love for John Barry at all. I was watching Hanover Street this afternoon and seriously thought the score was terrible and intrusive.


Hey, I'm on your side! I was being facetious(sp?) since all questions related to this project that weren't gushing praise were apparently considered 'pissing' on the project.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

Damn. How do you do this without a credit card?

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:45 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Very interesting to me...but first I would need to get the permission of the composer and the publishers....and that takes time...

Awesome! Thank you for the response, James! Much appreciated.

I understand the issue with permission. As you might know, however, the score sheets are available to rent so that's at least ONE problem out of the way.

Good luck with MOONRAKER -- I mean that sincerely, despite what some people in this thread surmise!

To keep this mildly on-topic, I'd like to point out that the title song from STORIA DI UNA DONNA -- "Uno di Qua, L'altra di La" performed by Ornella Varnoni -- is about the closest Williams has ever been to writing a Bond song. It's available to download on iTunes, or you can sample it on Youtube here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBxNvgn9m2I


A quick aside - the opening piano chords are reminiscent of Tomorrow With Me, from Goodbye, Mr Chips. The majority of the song, however, develops along different lines to Storia Di Una Donna.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   Mike_H   (Member)

James, will the signed copy of the score be the full conductor's score with every cue? If so, I will gladly up my pledge to 100!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

Nice kickstarter! Have you guys contacted some of the James Bond fan websites to see if they'll help you promote this? Also, could I suggest adding another, lower priced incentive? Maybe ten pounds for a digital copy of the album? Finally, there are couple of typos in the kickstarter description:


"...now is you chance to get such a recording done!"
"... do not foresee any real risks if the full funding can be flound"

Good luck!

Chris

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Even if this doesn't come off, it will be interesting to see how much interest there is in crowdfunding a new recording.


Well I think this is a dangerous assumption made by crowd funding proponents. A lot of folks like me want to see/hear samples of the final product before putting out our hard earned money. There's also the impulse buyers and random buyers, neither of which come into factor with crowd funding.

 
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