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Mel and J
The Dynamic/Fanatical Duo!
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What I forgot to mention is...telling two collectors of my Once Upon A Time In The West efforts (one in Sweden, the other in South America); they both sent along to me...oh yes...a trove of material I could not believe...
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May 1, 2018 - 7:42 PM
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jkruppa
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There's a bunch of material here that's never appeared on any release, official or unofficial
Can you give some more details on this?
The Main Titles/Prologue/LA 2019 is complete and at the correct pitch, crossfading into Leon's Interrogation, complete as it appears in the film
An isolated snippet of the Blimpvert music, the Japanese traditional piece "Chidori no Kyoku" -- typically mis-identified as "Ogi no Mato"
The sequence "The Blue Room," "Flight to Tyrell Corp," "Deckard Meets Rachael," and "Rachael's Voight-Kampff Test" are crossfaded to play as one continuous flow of music as they are in the film and are complete, down to the 40 seconds of tinkling chimes between the last two tracks.
"She's a Replicant" are the chimes that play behind Deckard and Tyrell's conversation about Rachael being a
Replicant.
"Deckard's Dream" clean opening and ending, as it appears in the Final Cut
"Would You Come After Me?/Love Theme" has the piano overlay. [This is my favorite part in the whole score.]
"Elevator to Tyrell's Bedroom/Queen to Bishop 6" is complete
"I Want More Life/The Prodigal Son Brings Death" the first part is complete and "Prodigal Son" is as it appears in the film
"Deckard Enters the Bradbury" with the Japanese music overlaid as in the film
"Show Me What You're Made Of" the first half is from Wounded Animals, the second half has been mis-labeled as "Roy Enters the Bradbury" on every b@@tleg release. I pulled a clean version from the rear channels of the Spanish blu-ray.
"Where Are You Going?" is three different pieces crossfaded together to match the film.
The Batty-Deckard duel cues are accurate to the film, and while they contain sections of Vangelis' 11 minute composition for this sequence, on the whole the effect varies considerably from the Wounded Animals track we all know well. Terry Rawlings did a lot of work fitting the music to the film, and this may arguably be the place where his fingerprints are the most apparent.
Additionally, all the other cues have been edited to match their appearances in the film, making this essentially an isolated score version of the movie. I've made two bonus discs of the unedited cues, as well as cues that only appear in the Workprint and 1982 US Theatrical Release. Plus a few other goodies. 
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'Tell us more.'
Busy doing some things at the moment. Will get back later. Material I was given is unbelievable. The net is filled with individuals, possessing a lot of hidden treasure...
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Agree with you completely. That whole rerecording, while an admirable effort, was simply a copy of the bootleg release and missed an opportunity to properly rerecord the complete score, or at least feature sections of the score not previously released by Vangelis. It may not have been 'authentic' Vangelis but at least by having rare/unreleased music it would have had an authentic reason for existing.
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Agree with you completely. That whole rerecording, while an admirable effort, was simply a copy of the bootleg release and missed an opportunity to properly rerecord the complete score, or at least feature sections of the score not previously released by Vangelis. It may not have been 'authentic' Vangelis but at least by having rare/unreleased music it would have had an authentic reason for existing.
I'm not sure how anyone could duplicate Demis Roussos' vocal, but I think it would be cool to hear some of the dodgy synth sounds on "Tales of the Future" done with the instruments Vangelis was trying to approximate. A harpist reproducing Gail Laughton's music for "Bicycle Riders" would also be interesting.
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To re-create the score cue by cue would be a massive undertaking, .....I have a new appreciation for how complex it is. The palette of sounds is really amazing.The
the amount of electronic beeps and boops alone is staggering!
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Still have not had time to give a cue by cue break down. But seeing this, forced me to go back to Once Upon A Time In The West material sent from collectors across the glob. There are interesting cues (some repeated several times with different orchestrations) and all a dream come true. Too bad the Blade Runner site is no longer up...
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Great stuff here.
I would love to know how to assemble the official 3CD set into film order, and what tracks are non-film (is it just disc three with the new stuff?).
Such a bummer that 3CD set STILL didn’t include the prologue/main title. Argh!
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May 12, 2018 - 12:18 AM
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jkruppa
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Great stuff here.
I would love to know how to assemble the official 3CD set into film order, and what tracks are non-film (is it just disc three with the new stuff?).
Such a bummer that 3CD set STILL didn’t include the prologue/main title. Argh!
It's not just disc 3. Wait For Me, Blush Response, Damask Rose (from disc 1), Longing, One Alone, Empty Streets, Mechanical Dolls and Fading Away (disc 2) aren't in the film at all. Desolation Path is in the workprint, but a different edit that's shorter at the front and longer at the end. Rachael's Song was composed but not used for the scene where Roy finds Pris' body.
You can use my list of cues to sort out the right order for the remaining tracks, but that still leaves out a considerable amount of music.
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I would love to know how to assemble the official 3CD set into film order, and what tracks are non-film (is it just disc three with the new stuff?).
On my blog about the score, I organized the tracks from the first two CDs in chronological order: http://bladerunnermusic.blogspot.com/2009/02/chronological-order.html
Keep in mind, though, that "Blade Runner Blues" and "Tales Of The Future" are suites that are used at least twice throughout the film, instead of scene-specific cues, so their narrative placement is somewhat debatable.
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May 12, 2018 - 7:16 PM
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jkruppa
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I would love to know how to assemble the official 3CD set into film order, and what tracks are non-film (is it just disc three with the new stuff?).
On my blog about the score, I organized the tracks from the first two CDs in chronological order: http://bladerunnermusic.blogspot.com/2009/02/chronological-order.html
Keep in mind, though, that "Blade Runner Blues" and "Tales Of The Future" are suites that are used at least twice throughout the film, instead of scene-specific cues, so their narrative placement is somewhat debatable.
Agreed, it's hard to place them using the complete tracks, but they are scene specific uses. Two almost identical two-minute excerpts of "Blade Runner Blues" appear in the film, first with Pris' introduction ("Pris' Song") and then with Zhora's retirement.
"Tales of the Future" appears four times, each longer than the last, and each taken from the first two minutes of the recording. They accompany a particular thread of Deckard's investigation and once that thread is resolved, we don't hear this music again.
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