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 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   jkruppa   (Member)

So I did a crazy thing.

It took me two years of work off and on, but using various "unofficial releases" and the isolated surround channels from half a dozen international blu-ray mixes, as well as the archival cuts, I managed to assemble a complete score for Blade Runner as it appears in the Final Cut. Every cue, every edit -- everything, with no dialogue, and only a couple of brief, unobtrusive bits of sound effects. (Those isolated surround channels were GOLD.)

Having done this I can see 1) why Vangelis never wanted to do this himself, and 2) why no one else has ever done it. Recording engineer Raine Shine noted in 2010 that it would have taken Vangelis a lot of work to get his recordings ready for a proper soundtrack release to reflect the film cues, since most are between 30 seconds and 2:30, and she wasn't kidding!

Fortunately (or unfortunately) I get obsessive about projects, and now it's done. I won't hold my breath waiting for Vangelis to thank me. smile

Anyway, if you're curious what a complete score would look like, here are all the cues, using mostly scene descriptions or bits of dialogue for titles:

1. Main Titles and Prologue/Los Angeles 2019 (complete and at the correct pitch)
segueways into
2. Leon's Interrogation
3. Blimpvert [Chidori no Kyoku – Japanese traditional – recording supervised by Vangelis)
4. Flight to Bryant’s Office
cues 5-8 are cross faded together in the film to create a continuous flow of music
5. The Blue Room
6. Flight to Tyrell Corporation (same as Los Angeles 2019 but a semitone higher)
7. Deckard Meets Rachael
8. Rachael's Voight-Kampff Test (fades to silence and then back up near the end - alternate mix of Dr Tyrell's Owl from the Blade Runner Trilogy CD set)
9. She's a Replicant
10. Memories [Tales of the Future 1 – excerpt]
11. Leon's Room [Tales of the Future 2 – excerpt]
12. Bicycle Riders [Gail Laughton, “Pompeii 76 A.D.” – film edit]
13. Chew's Eye Lab (film edit)
14. Memories of Green (film edit)
15. Pris's Song [Blade Runner Blues] (film edit)
16. Pris Meets J.F. Sebastian (with overlay of Ogi No Mato excerpt)
17. Deckard's Dream
18. Esper Analysis (film edit)
19. Snake Scales [Tales of the Future 3 – excerpt]
20. Animoid Row
21. Taffey Lewis' Night Club
22. Salome's Dance
23. Confronting Zhora (Tales of the Future 4)
24. Zhora's Retirement [Blade Runner Blues reprise]
25. One More Kiss, Dear
26. I Am The Business
27. Would You Come After Me?/Love Theme [with piano overlay]
28. Dawn [Ogi No Mato – excerpt]
29. Morning at the Bradbury
30. What Generation Are You?
31. Will You Help Us?
32. Elevator to Tyrell's Bedroom/Queen to Bishop 6
33. I Want More Life/The Prodigal Son Brings Death
34. Deckard Enters The Bradbury (with Japanese traditional piece – recording supervised by Vangelis)
35. Pris Attacks (Dangerous Days edit)
36. Roy Enters the Bradbury (reprise of Pris Meets JF Sebastian without Ogi No Mato)
37. Show Me What You're Made Of (Wounded Animals + percussion overlay + the music that is mislabeled “Roy Enters The Bradbury” on every unofficial release]
38. Batty and Deckard [Ogi No Mato – excerpt]
39. That's the Spirit (first 22 seconds of Pris Meets JF Sebastian)
40. Where Are You Going? (with Japanese traditional piece – recording supervised by Vangelis)
41. The Roof [Wounded Animals/Dangerous Days]
42. Batty Saves Deckard [last part of Wounded Animals]
43. Tears In Rain
44. Rachael Sleeps [Unveiled Twinkling Space from the Trilogy CD set – film edit]
45. End Titles (Final Cut)

There's a bunch of material here that's never appeared on any release, official or unofficial, and as a lover of film music, it's been a revelation. I have a whole new respect for what Vangelis accomplished, and for how Ridley Scott and Terry Rawlings assembled everything for specific effect. I'm putting the finishing touches on an essay documenting what I've learned through this process, including a cue-by-cue walk through of the score.

I've also compiled two discs of bonus material, including unedited recordings and alternate cues from the Workprint, US Theatrical cut and the Director's cut. If anyone is interested I can post the list of those tracks.

And if FSM can find any way to release this, I will be more than happy to send the flac files over! I would love for this work to properly see the light of day.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Wow, that's quite an undertaking, I admire your dedication to the project, but FSM is out of the new CD business. And we've not gotten a complete score CD for a good reason, am sure Vangelis has a say-so in the matter or else it would have been done by now .

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

That is IMPRESSIVE man, wow!

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 5:35 PM   
 By:   jkruppa   (Member)

Wow, that's quite an undertaking, I admire your dedication to the project, but FSM is out of the new CD business. And we've not gotten a complete score CD for a good reason, am sure Vangelis has a say-so in the matter or else it would have been done by now .

Right, as I would imagine. At any rate, it has been done, just not officially. big grin

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 5:39 PM   
 By:   jkruppa   (Member)

That is IMPRESSIVE man, wow!

Thanks! In an alternate universe I think I must be a music archivist, because I'm always doing these little projects off and on for myself and a few friends. This has definitely been one of the most involved.

Hm, maybe I should try to get someone to hire me to do this kind of thing in this universe.

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2018 - 6:21 PM   
 By:   jkruppa   (Member)

Giving this a bump. Where are the Blade Runner score fans?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2018 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   darklordsauron   (Member)

Giving this a bump. Where are the Blade Runner score fans?

What's to discuss? smile I would be thrilled to listen to your version and comment (hint hint).

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2018 - 6:47 PM   
 By:   Replicant8   (Member)

BRAVO!!!!! Kudos 2 U sir!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2018 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Definitely impressive, but your thread needs STAR WARS to really deliver the conversation ;-)

In seriousness, I want to check those library cues you are researching for the WP, but haven't had a chance...figure someone will show me up anyway :-/
It was weird 'Humanoids' was used, but I always figured it was Rawlings fave soundtrack LP he was spinning at the moment....good thing it wasn't FAME!!
-Sean

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2018 - 8:22 PM   
 By:   jkruppa   (Member)

Definitely impressive, but your thread needs STAR WARS to really deliver the conversation ;-)

In seriousness, I want to check those library cues you are researching for the WP, but haven't had a chance...figure someone will show me up anyway :-/
It was weird 'Humanoids' was used, but I always figured it was Rawlings fave soundtrack LP he was spinning at the moment....good thing it wasn't FAME!!
-Sean


Haha duly noted!

Please feel free regarding the library cues. I have to admit, one or two sound like they should be Planet of the Apes, and at least one is in the same vein as Alien, but I haven't been able to find any matches yet.

I found an interview online with Rawlings where he said he had a huge music collection, that it was his passion throughout life, so he clearly listened to a lot of releases. I suspect he's the reason Ogi No Mato and Pompeii 76AD are in the soundtrack, and that they were part of his temp soundtrack from the start.

And finally, if anyone is interested in hearing the complete score I've compiled, please check my profile here for my email and get in touch. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2018 - 11:05 PM   
 By:   gyorgyL   (Member)

Definitely impressive, but your thread needs STAR WARS to really deliver the conversation ;-)

In seriousness, I want to check those library cues you are researching for the WP, but haven't had a chance...figure someone will show me up anyway :-/
It was weird 'Humanoids' was used, but I always figured it was Rawlings fave soundtrack LP he was spinning at the moment....good thing it wasn't FAME!!
-Sean


Haha duly noted!

Please feel free regarding the library cues. I have to admit, one or two sound like they should be Planet of the Apes, and at least one is in the same vein as Alien, but I haven't been able to find any matches yet.

I found an interview online with Rawlings where he said he had a huge music collection, that it was his passion throughout life, so he clearly listened to a lot of releases. I suspect he's the reason Ogi No Mato and Pompeii 76AD are in the soundtrack, and that they were part of his temp soundtrack from the start.

And finally, if anyone is interested in hearing the complete score I've compiled, please check my profile here for my email and get in touch. smile

There is no mail at your profile page ...

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2018 - 11:26 PM   
 By:   jkruppa   (Member)

Try now and see if it's showing up.

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2018 - 11:46 PM   
 By:   Lewis&Clark   (Member)

I does smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2018 - 2:59 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

Let me chime in just to say your work does look impressive. I look forward to the essay. please keep me posted.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   ghost of 82   (Member)

A fan of the film and the soundtrack since 1982, I honestly hadn't realised that there was so much editing of cues going on, but your work/the chronological summary seems pretty conclusive. Thought Vangelis had scored the film from the film edit but apparently not, a lot of his music seems to have been all mixed up to match the picture. I wonder if this was partly why he declined to release the soundtrack back in 1982?

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

If you combine the best tracks from the CD produced by Edgar Rothermich (BSX CD) and a few original tracks from the Vangelis 1994 CD you can make a pretty satisfying CD-R for yourself. That's what I have.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

If you combine the best tracks from the CD produced by Edgar Rothermich (BSX CD) and a few original tracks from the Vangelis 1994 CD you can make a pretty satisfying CD-R for yourself. That's what I have.


Check out my version derived from original tracks.
Brm

 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2018 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   jkruppa   (Member)

I'm a graphic designer and photographer in my daily life, so I couldn't help but design a proper package for this project since I did so much work on it. By the way, I highly recommend Super Jewel Boxes for your own custom artwork if you haven't discovered them. They're SACD boxes, essentially, and to me they feel more substantial than regular jewel boxes.



 
 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2018 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   Melvin Stephens   (Member)

'So I did a crazy thing....'

Interesting, another person such as myself...I did the same with Once Upon A Time In The West. Listed cues and my efforts here, several years ago...

'It took me two years of work off and on, but using various "unofficial releases"...

I spent about 2 years on Once Upon A Time In The West...

As Yoda said...'There is another.' On another site I discovered, there is a Blade Runner version; where the person gathered various sources from around the world to complete their version. They had a site up for viewing.

'Fortunately (or unfortunately) I get obsessive about projects, and now it's done. I won't hold my breath waiting for Vangelis to thank me. smile'

I know the feeling. Working late into the night on West was an experience...

 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2018 - 6:43 PM   
 By:   jkruppa   (Member)

'So I did a crazy thing....'

Interesting, another person such as myself...I did the same with Once Upon A Time In The West. Listed cues and my efforts here, several years ago...

'It took me two years of work off and on, but using various "unofficial releases"...

I spent about 2 years on Once Upon A Time In The West...

As Yoda said...'There is another.' On another site I discovered, there is a Blade Runner version; where the person gathered various sources from around the world to complete their version. They had a site up for viewing.

'Fortunately (or unfortunately) I get obsessive about projects, and now it's done. I won't hold my breath waiting for Vangelis to thank me. smile'

I know the feeling. Working late into the night on West was an experience...


I learned my lesson...until the next project comes along. big grin

 
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