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 Posted:   Apr 7, 2015 - 12:15 PM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

got my copy of The Egyptian today.
Everything is fine, until I get to Partys End and all of a sudden the music starts fading out at 1:04,
although the varese goes on another Forty seconds, as does the old decca recording at that point.

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2015 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

SoundtrackCollector says Party's End was 1:02 long on the Varese Club release.

http://soundtrackcollector.com/title/1574/

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2015 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   Lewis&Clark   (Member)

Just checked it out on my Varese: it's excactly like this... fade out near 1:04, so nothing missing on the new La-La-Land edition.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2015 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   shureman   (Member)

Actually I think Joe is comparing the LaLa Land to the old Varese version of the Decca album...and, he's right. The music does go on longer, but then, that track was an Alfred Newman re-recording of the score, so it's a slightly different beast...

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2015 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

We talked about this other album, now available digitally, in this other thread.

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=108921&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2015 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

Actually I think Joe is comparing the LaLa Land to the old Varese version of the Decca album...and, he's right. The music does go on longer, but then, that track was an Alfred Newman re-recording of the score, so it's a slightly different beast...

That Decca cue is the same length, about 1.40, as the film soundtrack and the isolated score on the Twilight Time Blu-ray. So, as I said in the other thread, the original Decca recording is essential for completists smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2015 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

Actually I think Joe is comparing the LaLa Land to the old Varese version of the Decca album...and, he's right. The music does go on longer, but then, that track was an Alfred Newman re-recording of the score, so it's a slightly different beast...

That Decca cue is the same length, about 1.40, as the film soundtrack and the isolated score on the Twilight Time Blu-ray. So, as I said in the other thread, the original Decca recording is essential for completists smile


Not to mention, beautifully performed and not bad sounding for its age, in its old Varese CD incarnation. For some reason that particular cue has stuck in my mind since way back in the early 60s when I first heard the Decca LP, so I have to say that in this particular, at least, the Decca re-recording has one on the resurrected original score cues. I love all of these releases and am happy to have them in my collection (though I did trade off my FSM single-disc release when the 2-disc Varese came out).

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2015 - 5:18 PM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

I have the cue, complete in stereo - so I did not get it from the old Decca

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2015 - 7:40 PM   
 By:   Louis Latzer   (Member)

I just took the track from the Stromberg re-recording (track 10) and adjusted the tempi in different sections to almost perfectly match the LaLa track. (The first 24 seconds @ 75%, then from approximately 1:00 [I forget the exact time] at 85%, which gives a total time of 1:44). I think it matches pretty well. It seems you can have either the originial recording or the full cue, but probably not both.

Otherwise, I think the new release is excellent.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2015 - 5:16 AM   
 By:   hal_jackson   (Member)

Herrmann's manuscript score indicates the cue length as 1:42. The fade out occurs before the ending with the strings and low harp notes. I noticed th fade out last night as I listened to the score, didn't remember how it was in the original FSM CD or Varese releases. I have the 2CD Varese release, the Benny box set release, and the old release of that old Decca LP (the re-recording).

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2015 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

I checked the cue on the Twilight Time DVD.
The iso has the track complete at 1:42

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2015 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   MOsdtks   (Member)

I checked the cue on the Twilight Time DVD.
The iso has the track complete at 1:42


Hmmmmm ok let's see. Who hasn't released this? Intrada! Ok Intrada it's your turn to release this again. Get it right. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2015 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

Interesting, I wonder why La La Land didn't use the complete track, since it does exist in complete form on the Blu-ray iso track. (The sound does have a lot of wow in it though.)

Just to muddle the waters further, the version of this cue as heard on the single FSM CD runs 1:12 and does not fade out.

And here's another piece that not on ANY of the CDs:

https://soundcloud.com/jim-doherty-5/the-egyptian-nefers-house

 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2015 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I checked the cue on the Twilight Time DVD.
The iso has the track complete at 1:42


Hmmmmm ok let's see. Who hasn't released this? Intrada! Ok Intrada it's your turn to release this again. Get it right. wink


Yeah, and this time include the remastered Newman-conducted LP recording! smile

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2015 - 10:38 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

I checked the cue on the Twilight Time DVD.
The iso has the track complete at 1:42


Hmmmmm ok let's see. Who hasn't released this? Intrada! Ok Intrada it's your turn to release this again. Get it right. wink


Yeah, and this time include the remastered Newman-conducted LP recording! smile

Yavar


And then we'll have to figure out what's missing from that release!

 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2015 - 10:52 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

Pointing out that 40 seconds are "missing" from a release featuring almost two hours of music.





 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2015 - 11:59 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Desert Chase.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2015 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Thanks for the drums, Jim. Herrmann's, I suppose, since he seemed to be in charge of that unhappy section of the movie.

I'm reminded of EL CID, where no album has ever included the Moorish drumbeats that were so striking to my young ears when I first saw the film. They are not by Rozsa, of course, and may well be a residue of Mario Nascimbene's early involvement in the project. The (Mozarabic?) chanting at King Ferdinand's wake has also been neglected, though I'm certain Rozsa was involved with that music.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2015 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Pointing out that 40 seconds are "missing" from a release featuring almost two hours of music.





I agree Josh.

I well remember the 60s, 70s etc., when something like LLL's magnificent Egyptian
was just a dream. In the past 20 years or so we have gotten a HUGE amount of great Golden Age scores. Not to mention early Silver Age too! I never thought I would see the day.

Be grateful guys! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2015 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

I checked the cue on the Twilight Time DVD.
The iso has the track complete at 1:42


Fair to say that the LLL 2-CD is simply (perhaps literally) a clone of the Varese 2-CD with some sound tinkering here and there - hence the same edit/fade?

 
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