The stand out cue has to be "You Are the Pan". What an amazing piece of work. Very powerful. It seems so different from anything else JW has ever written. In fact if I didn't know any better I would have thought Georges Delerue wrote that piece. But of course he didn't.
Yes, Delerue DID. It was originally called "Agnes of God," I believe.
The "Hook" cue "Banning Back Home," on the other hand, is "Mountain Dance" by Dave Grusin, from his 1979 album of the same name. It also featured prominently in Grusin's score to the 1984 film, "Falling in Love."
The stand out cue has to be "You Are the Pan". What an amazing piece of work. Very powerful. It seems so different from anything else JW has ever written. In fact if I didn't know any better I would have thought Georges Delerue wrote that piece. But of course he didn't.
Yes, Delerue DID. It was originally called "Agnes of God," I believe.
The "Hook" cue "Banning Back Home," on the other hand, is "Mountain Dance" by Dave Grusin, from his 1979 album of the same name. It also featured prominently in Grusin's score to the 1984 film, "Falling in Love."
The stand out cue has to be "You Are the Pan". What an amazing piece of work. Very powerful. It seems so different from anything else JW has ever written. In fact if I didn't know any better I would have thought Georges Delerue wrote that piece. But of course he didn't.
Yes, Delerue DID. It was originally called "Agnes of God," I believe.
The "Hook" cue "Banning Back Home," on the other hand, is "Mountain Dance" by Dave Grusin, from his 1979 album of the same name. It also featured prominently in Grusin's score to the 1984 film, "Falling in Love."
The stand out cue has to be "You Are the Pan". What an amazing piece of work. Very powerful. It seems so different from anything else JW has ever written. In fact if I didn't know any better I would have thought Georges Delerue wrote that piece. But of course he didn't.
Yes, Delerue DID. It was originally called "Agnes of God," I believe.
The "Hook" cue "Banning Back Home," on the other hand, is "Mountain Dance" by Dave Grusin, from his 1979 album of the same name. It also featured prominently in Grusin's score to the 1984 film, "Falling in Love."
Temp tracks can be fun.
well, i'm pissed!!!!
how much more music from hook (my favourite John Williams score) isn't Williams' after all? I understand temp tracks and I know composers borrow from each other all the time but I think that apparently he was too glued to the Grusin and Delerues pieces. You are the pan is one of the most moving music that I have ever heard and now i know that it was taken from another composer's score! Don't beat me up on this but i do feel disappointed... (still love it, though)
Agnes of God and Face of Pan are close enough that temp track is a reasonable inference. On the other hand, only the opening first few bars sound almost identical. The rest of Williams' piece absorbs some of that same flavor but is a different melody with different chord progressions. So I don't think we should imply that this isn't an original Williams composition. Temp tracks are a fact of life and if a composer can speak to what the director wants and make it fit the film and make it his own, that is still impressive IMO.
It is also worth noting that The Speilberg/Williams compoliation CD has an expanded interpretation of Face of Pan which makes the piece even more his own as compared to the film version with lots of beautiful brass and lengthened phrasing of the melody. Much less likely to draw the comparison to Agnes of God, for whatever that is worth.
Agnes of God and Face of Pan are close enough that temp track is a reasonable inference. On the other hand, only the opening first few bars sound almost identical. The rest of Williams' piece absorbs some of that same flavor but is a different melody with different chord progressions. So I don't think we should imply that this isn't an original Williams composition. Temp tracks are a fact of life and if a composer can speak to what the director wants and make it fit the film and make it his own, that is still impressive IMO.
Exactly, they are similar, but hardly a rip off. Same with Banning Back Home vs Mountain Dance, they have the same....feel....but the former is still a Williams compositio through and through.
Agnes of God and Face of Pan are close enough that temp track is a reasonable inference. On the other hand, only the opening first few bars sound almost identical. The rest of Williams' piece absorbs some of that same flavor but is a different melody with different chord progressions. So I don't think we should imply that this isn't an original Williams composition. Temp tracks are a fact of life and if a composer can speak to what the director wants and make it fit the film and make it his own, that is still impressive IMO.
Exactly, they are similar, but hardly a rip off. Same with Banning Back Home vs Mountain Dance, they have the same....feel....but the former is still a Williams compositio through and through.
Completely agree re: Pan. The harmonic approach and texture are similar up to a point. But i would never confuse the two or call one a copy. For that matter, both Delerue and Williams most likely took some inspiration from Vaughan Williams for this particular mode of expression.
So ~six months after the prediction was made that this would sell out in the near future...it's still there. What did MV say, Cricket City?
I'm not surprised it hasn't sold out, the last time I looked, HMV had the 74 minute CD for £7! I'd think for most people 74 minutes would do it, & it was a lousy movie.
LOW STOCK ALERT: Less than 400 units of BLACK RAIN remain. Less than 450 units of Hook remain. Once they are gone, these limited editions will be sold out completely.
There was some disliking about this release or am I wrong? Did LaLaLandRecords made an odd job creating the expanded edition? Could you recall it for me please?
Is it worthy? I sold the single edition in order to get the expanded.
There was some disliking about this release or am I wrong? Did LaLaLandRecords made an odd job creating the expanded edition? Could you recall it for me please?
The Final War Part 2 and 3 are taken from stems (or whatever they are called) so the sound quality is minorly less. It's almost unnoticeable though to most people. There's a wierd issue with the end credits fading in or something like that, I don't remember anyone bringing it up though.
