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 Posted:   Apr 29, 2015 - 7:05 AM   
 By:   cormoranstrike   (Member)

What did they use during Thors vision[\spoiler]?

I don't think it's on the album at all.

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2015 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

iTunes files are 256kbps AAC
Amazon's are 256kbps MP3
Google Play's are 320kbps MP3

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2015 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   cormoranstrike   (Member)

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 Posted:   Apr 29, 2015 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   cormoranstrike   (Member)

I've been listening to the album in the correct story order (the 24 tracks I posted above), and I find it makes the album much more enjoyable and cohesive in my opinion. The random ordering of the tracks (and putting in tracks that do not appear in the film) on the album release makes it feel like a jumbled mess of pieces that do not belong together somehow.

Still have to figure out where "Fighting Back", "Keys to the Past" and "Nothing Lasts Forever" should be placed, or if they appear in the film at all.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2015 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

Is there any discernable difference in quality between the Amazon or Itunes downloads?

Whether it's discernible or not depends on your ears and your equipment, but while they're both encoded at 256kbps, (and unless they've changed their standards while I wasn't looking,) Amazon is VBR and iTunes is not, and Amazon is mp3 while iTunes is AAC, so iTunes probably has the edge in sound quality.


Thanks, Mastadge. I have good hearing, so no difference at all other than Amazon being 50 cents cheaper. wink

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2015 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

IS IT TOO SOON TO TELL ME HOW AGENT Colson survived?

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2015 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

IS IT TOO SOON TO TELL ME HOW AGENT Colson survived?

They actually covered that in the TV series last year.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2015 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   dr.doom   (Member)

I've been listening to the album in the correct story order (the 24 tracks I posted above), and I find it makes the album much more enjoyable and cohesive in my opinion. The random ordering of the tracks (and putting in tracks that do not appear in the film) on the album release makes it feel like a jumbled mess of pieces that do not belong together somehow.

Still have to figure out where "Fighting Back", "Keys to the Past" and "Nothing Lasts Forever" should be placed, or if they appear in the film at all.

watched the movie an hour ago again.still havent found keys to the past but fighting back is right before avengers unite and nothing last s forever is even said by black widow during the scene in which it belongs but was replaced by a promise.also seoul searching appears also partly during the fight after the party and one good eye is partly in the scene when the people in one of the shuttles are attacked and tony tries to stabilizie the shuttle.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2015 - 8:59 PM   
 By:   Martin Williams   (Member)

After listening to a few samples on iTunes, I'm happy Silvestri's theme somewhat survived (see "Avengers Unite"). I'll wait to download though after seeing it this weekend.

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2015 - 11:58 PM   
 By:   cormoranstrike   (Member)

I've been listening to the album in the correct story order (the 24 tracks I posted above), and I find it makes the album much more enjoyable and cohesive in my opinion. The random ordering of the tracks (and putting in tracks that do not appear in the film) on the album release makes it feel like a jumbled mess of pieces that do not belong together somehow.

Still have to figure out where "Fighting Back", "Keys to the Past" and "Nothing Lasts Forever" should be placed, or if they appear in the film at all.

watched the movie an hour ago again.still havent found keys to the past but fighting back is right before avengers unite and nothing last s forever is even said by black widow during the scene in which it belongs but was replaced by a promise.also seoul searching appears also partly during the fight after the party and one good eye is partly in the scene when the people in one of the shuttles are attacked and tony tries to stabilizie the shuttle.


OK, thanks. Based on that, I guess I'll add at least "fighting back" in there.

#1 Danny Elfman - It Begins (Marvel logo and opening battle)
#2 Brian Tyler - Breaking and Entering
#3 Brian Tyler - Avengers: Age of Ultron Title
#4 Brian Tyler - Birth of Ultron
#5 Danny Elfman - Ultron Wakes
#6 Danny Elfman - Ultron-Twins
#7 Brian Tyler - The Vault
#8 Brian Tyler - Hulkbuster
#9 Danny Elfman - Farmhouse
#10 Brian Tyler - Darkest of Intentions
#11 Brian Tyler - Seoul Searching
#12 Danny Elfman - Can You Stop This Thing?
#13 Danny Elfman - Inevitability-One Good Eye
#14 Brian Tyler - Vision
#15 Brian Tyler - The Mission
#16 Brian Tyler - Uprising
#17 Brian Tyler - The Battle
#18 Brian Tyler - Outlook
#19 Brian Tyler - Fighting Back
#20 Danny Elfman - Avengers Unite
#21 Brian Tyler - Sacrifice
#22 Brian Tyler - The Last One
#23 Danny Elfman - The Farm
#24 Brian Tyler - Wish You Were Here
#25 Danny Elfman - New Avengers-Avengers: Age of Ultron

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2015 - 1:13 AM   
 By:   Machionic   (Member)

Of which I know for sure (note what some of them are combining cues from different scenes):

It Begins
Breaking and Entering
Avengers: Age of Ultron Title
Birth of Ultron
Ultron / Twins
The Vault
Hulkbuster
Farmhouse
Darkest of Intentions
Seoul Searching
Can You Stop This Thing?
Ultron Wakes
Vision
The Mission
Uprising
The Battle
Outlook
Fighting Back
Avengers Unite
Sacrifice
The Last One
The Farm
Nothing Lasts Forever
New Avengers / Avengers: Age of Ultron


Rise Together - first half is not in the film, but second one is duplicated/rearranged in "Fighting Back".

Inevitability / One Good Eye - used partly in between "Ultron Wakes" and "Vision". And later parts between "The Battle" and "Outlook".

Wish You Were Here - alternate, I presume, for "Nothing Lasts Forever" which is used.

Heroes - alt. take of last cue "Avengers: Age of Ultron". Same length, different orchestration.

Keys to the Past - don't know about this one, but I think partly between "The Vault" and "Hulkbuster".

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2015 - 2:56 AM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)

Of which I know for sure (note what some of them are combining cues from different scenes):

It Begins
Breaking and Entering
Avengers: Age of Ultron Title
Birth of Ultron
Ultron / Twins
The Vault
Hulkbuster
Farmhouse
Darkest of Intentions
Seoul Searching
Can You Stop This Thing?
Ultron Wakes
Vision
The Mission
Uprising
The Battle
Outlook
Fighting Back
Avengers Unite
Sacrifice
The Last One
The Farm
Nothing Lasts Forever
New Avengers / Avengers: Age of Ultron


Rise Together - first half is not in the film, but second one is duplicated/rearranged in "Fighting Back".

Inevitability / One Good Eye - used partly in between "Ultron Wakes" and "Vision". And later parts between "The Battle" and "Outlook".

Wish You Were Here - alternate, I presume, for "Nothing Lasts Forever" which is used.

Heroes - alt. take of last cue "Avengers: Age of Ultron". Same length, different orchestration.

Keys to the Past - don't know about this one, but I think partly between "The Vault" and "Hulkbuster".


do you think the first half of "Rise Together" was intented then when it would have been there before " Fighting Back"

I 'd like to gather all relevant things on the music only in that other thread I started, would you
post your track sequence and observations there also, or may I quote you?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2015 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   Machionic   (Member)

Sure you can.

"Rise Together" as an original version of Helicarrier scene sounds appropriate. I think, you can edit Rise Together and Fighting Back into the one cue removing all the redundant stuff.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2015 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   Coco314   (Member)

These modern superhero films have a very clear dramatic structure: fight scene with mayhem and multiple explosions, quiet breather scene, then the next fight scene and so on.

Yet, this structure produces a stop-and-go score that is either hammering away or stepping into the background, more or less sonic wallpaper.


Quite agree with this. Excaltly the issue of both film and score. There is certainly no structure, and little evolution, because these movies are all concerned by rythm.
There is just no breathing between action, motion, dialogue scenes with all these scenes being short, hence you can't develop anything: little true feeling nor musical structure (I found it particularly evident in the "Guardians of the galaxy" movie, handling humour and dramatic points in a matter of minutes).
In Ultron, the most impressive one-to-one fight in the movie has no dramatic resonnance whatsoever. What can the score do then except ape the momentary obvious in a short amount of time?

This second movie feels episodic and lacks a global structure, where characters and story evolve significantly toward some conclusion (to be honest it's there, but for some side characters where it doesn't work very well). At least, the first movie was about bringing the team together, so when the big moment came with that circular shot, Silvestri could blast its theme with a sense of culmination - and it was the only moment where the score indeed made an impression. There is none of that in the new movie, where both composers just have to catch up with the stop-and-go narrative.

Liked a lot Elfman's music on album, btw!

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2015 - 1:32 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

I've given the new score it's first listen and I gotta say, Danny Elfman for the win. I like his new theme.

Now after listening to what's on the end credits, here's a spoiler;

We get a full version of Silvestri's Avenger's theme. Why is this not included on the soundtrack?

Some kind of contractual thing? Too redundant?

Interesting.

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2015 - 3:10 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

biggest interview to date:

http://www.scpr.org/programs/the-frame/2015/05/01/42674/avengers-age-of-ultron-furious-7-composer-brian-ty/

'Avengers: Age of Ultron,' 'Furious 7' composer Brian Tyler explains the secrets of iconic themes

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2015 - 4:39 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Anyone notice Elfman quoting from his own Ang Lee Hulk score in the movie?

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2015 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Anyone notice Elfman quoting from his own Ang Lee Hulk score in the movie?

I didn't, but I mentioned in a post earlier in this thread that I personally thought it'd be really cool if he could or if he did, because I really dig The Hulk score.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2015 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

Anyone notice Elfman quoting from his own Ang Lee Hulk score in the movie?

Haven't seen the film yet, but I didn't catch anything obvious. Can you point to a track where there's a quotation, Jeff?

Chris

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2015 - 9:58 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Okay, after observing the bizarre metamorphoses of the composer credits on the posters for ‘Avengers: Age of Ultron’ (“Music by Brian Tyler” —> “Music by Brian Tyler, Additional Music by Danny Elfman” —> “Music by Brian Tyler and Danny Elfman”), now having seen the movie and hearing that the bulk of the moments where the score really kicks into high gear, it does so by referencing Alan Silvestri's themes from the first film, I can't help but ask… why not have just hired Silvestri in the first place?

 
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