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 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   Kim Tong   (Member)

Just thinking about ROCKY. 5 discs for the unreleased ROCKY, ROCKY II, ROCKY III, ROCKY V and ROCKY BALBOA. Plus 3 discs for the soundtrack versions of ROCKY, ROCKY II and ROCKY III.

I'd love a Rocky set. If we had 8 discs of Rocky I'd be in Conti heaven. Still hoping.


Hello fellow Conti fan!smileI also think a ROCKY set would easily sell 3000 copies for $120.


I can see a ROCKY set selling 3000, but if they include 3 discs of the soundtrack version, I think the $120.00 is a little too high. I am believing it might be TOTC more than ROCKY. I would pay $120 for 8 discs of TOTC and I would not pay $120 for ROCKY.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Just thinking about ROCKY. 5 discs for the unreleased ROCKY, ROCKY II, ROCKY III, ROCKY V and ROCKY BALBOA. Plus 3 discs for the soundtrack versions of ROCKY, ROCKY II and ROCKY III.

I'd love a Rocky set. If we had 8 discs of Rocky I'd be in Conti heaven. Still hoping.


Hello fellow Conti fan!smileI also think a ROCKY set would easily sell 3000 copies for $120.


I can see a ROCKY set selling 3000, but if they include 3 discs of the soundtrack version, I think the $120.00 is a little too high. I am believing it might be TOTC more than ROCKY. I would pay $120 for 8 discs of TOTC and I would not pay $120 for ROCKY.


I would be very happy with either set. I'm such a Conti fan I'd pay $120 for one note of his music that I don't have.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   Kim Tong   (Member)

I would be very happy with either set. I'm such a Conti fan I'd pay $120 for one note of his music that I don't have.

From what I have read here I know that you are a big Conti fan. But when you look at Varese's website, they still have copies of Conti's NORTH AND SOUTH (2500 copies) and NORTH AND SOUTH : Book II (1500 copies) and they have reduced the prices to get them moving. Yes, ROCKY would be purchased by more people than NAS, but that still seems like a lot to sell.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Yeah, 3000 copies of 8 discs for $120 and people think Tales from the Crypt is more likely than Erich Korngold's complete surviving works?

Let's make a friendly wager, Yavar. If it is an Erich Wolfgang Korngold set, you win. If it is any score or set of scores other than Korngold, I win. That seems fair, no?

In all seriousness, it is only because of our strange echo chamber that we've narrowed the choices down to these two, with the tiniest shred of evidence for one and absolutely none for the other.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Yeah, 3000 copies of 8 discs for $120 and people think Tales from the Crypt is more likely than Erich Korngold's complete surviving works?

Let's make a friendly wager, Yavar. If it is an Erich Wolfgang Korngold set, you win. If it is any score or set of scores other than Korngold, I win. That seems fair, no?

In all seriousness, it is only because of our strange echo chamber that we've narrowed the choices down to these two, with the tiniest shred of evidence for one and absolutely none for the other.


FSM Message Board = strange echo chamber!

I also find it confounding when some board members get an idea in their head about an upcoming release and are convinced that it must be true without any actual evidence to back it up. Just because MV stated he liked Korngold does not somehow equate to an 8-disc CD set of his music is coming up. Beyond MV's personal tastes, Golden Age scores are not really LLL's bread & butter, so an 8-disc set would be a risk for them, as the majority of their customers, whether you like it or not, gravitate towards 80's & 90's titles.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 1:34 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I would be very happy with either set. I'm such a Conti fan I'd pay $120 for one note of his music that I don't have.

From what I have read here I know that you are a big Conti fan. But when you look at Varese's website, they still have copies of Conti's NORTH AND SOUTH (2500 copies) and NORTH AND SOUTH : Book II (1500 copies) and they have reduced the prices to get them moving. Yes, ROCKY would be purchased by more people than NAS, but that still seems like a lot to sell.


Hi Kim! btw, how do you like this board so far? I see your first year anniversary is coming up soon. It's good to have you here.smileYou are correct, Conti is my all time favorite composer, I'm probably his biggest fan. You made some good points, but I think a ROCKY set is a potential cash cow. Intrada released ROCKY IV a while back and it was, I think, an unlimited release. Granted it isn't a box set, but I think a ROCKY box set would do just fine at 3000 copies. But who knows?

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 5:35 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I'm not sure that it'll be a Korngold set. I was being goofily over-confident in my optimism -- sorry if that didn't come through. But I am SURE that for a set of that magnitude, price, and pressing quantity that a Korngold set is MORE likely than TftC. So if you want to wager TftC specifically against Korngold then I'm totally up for that. smile

Now a box set of all the Rocky scores or Lethal Weapon scores or the Elm Street scores available for licensing might be more likely. Those major motion picture franchises all have a big following.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I would LOVE a ROCKY set more than any other release, but I always go to a ROCKY set when there's news of a box set. It's what I do, there's nothing behind it just hope.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 6:14 PM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

Didn't Friday the 13th set only have 1300 units? I haven't seen anything that says 3000 units.

About eighty or so posts back, MV states…

We previously announced that the set was going to be $119.98.

It will be a limited edition of 3000 units

MV


Yikes, that's $15 a disc, you'd think they'd be cheaper as part of an eight disc set, plus p&p, extra for Europe, plus custom charges in the UK. You'd have to want that set real bad.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 7:06 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

At that price, it would need to be something of Indiana Jones or James Bond proportions to sell 3000.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 7:23 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

At that price, it would need to be something of Indiana Jones or James Bond proportions to sell 3000.


My earlier suggestion of need-to-be-expanded Bond scores:

Disc 1: The Man with the Golden Gun
Disc 2: The Spy Who Loved Me
Disc 3: Octopussy
Disc 4: A View to a Kill
Disc 5: Tomorrow Never Dies
Disc 6: The World Is Not Enough
Disc 7: Die Another Day, Pt. 1
Disc 8: Die Another Day, Pt. 2

All complete or near complete, naturally. Licence to Kill to be released separately at a later date. big grin



But I wouldn't go banco on that.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   Sketchkid   (Member)

At that price, it would need to be something of Indiana Jones or James Bond proportions to sell 3000.

Good point... other than Star Trek I can't imagine a tv show moving that many units for the price. But that's just an observation based on my own preferences. (Still, $40 X-Files isn't sold through yet) It would need to be a big film series for me to go for it.

Indy or SW would've been revealed/leaked before now. James Bond would be cool for the fans, though I'm content with the Brosnan/Craig era releases. Rocky would be amazing... but, like the character...it's a long shot.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 7:47 PM   
 By:   jkirkfsm   (Member)

Wonder if that 8 disk set might be the collected Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea that was rumored at about the same time as the ST TOS set was announced. Eight disks would cover four seasons. Something I'd sure like to hear.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Wonder if that 8 disk set might be the collected Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea that was rumored at about the same time as the ST TOS set was announced. Eight disks would cover four seasons. Something I'd sure like to hear.




I'd definitely want it, but would another 2999 people spend $359,880 on it?

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 9:28 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Wonder if that 8 disk set might be the collected Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea that was rumored at about the same time as the ST TOS set was announced. Eight disks would cover four seasons. Something I'd sure like to hear.

Given that LLL's two-disc release of the much better known "Lost in Space," which featured a lot of John Williams, was famously a poor seller, it's really hard to imagine LLL rolling the dice on a pricey "Voyage" set four times the size of that one (and without a name brand composer, besides Goldsmith's already released score for the pilot).

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 9:44 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Maybe its a Hitchcock Herrmann set : Bernard Herrmann at Universal

- The Wrong Man
- The Trouble With Harry
- The Man Who Knew Too Much
- Psycho
- Vertigo
- North by Northwest
- Marnie
- Torn Curtain

Even if this isnt it they should make it happen some day.

If the Conlon VERTIGO re recording or the Elfman PSYCHO recording is added as a bonus then it would just perfect.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 10:24 PM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)

Maybe its a Hitchcock Herrmann set : Bernard Herrmann at Universal

- The Wrong Man
- The Trouble With Harry
- The Man Who Knew Too Much
- Psycho
- Vertigo
- North by Northwest
- Marnie
- Torn Curtain

Even if this isnt it they should make it happen some day.

If the Conlon VERTIGO re recording or the Elfman PSYCHO recording is added as a bonus then it would just perfect.


Interesting assumption, but:
  • North by Northwest - Intrada's edition is still available, and it's WB title...
  • The Wrong Man - FSM version is still available, so as well as Lukas don't made huge discount (as was with Egyptian or King Kong), so that means that Wrong Man is out from that list or that miracle don't happens with this score and LLL didn't find stereo masters...

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     Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 11:22 PM   
     By:   Tobias   (Member)

    The poster that first suggested it could be Tales From The Crypt, I am with you. I think/hope it is that.

     
     Posted:   Nov 1, 2013 - 6:46 AM   
     By:   solium   (Member)

    Haven't heard anything that would push 3000 copies at $120 yet. Maybe Rocky as it would appeal to sports fans as well as score fans.

     
     
     Posted:   Nov 1, 2013 - 11:52 AM   
     By:   Kim Tong   (Member)


    Hi Kim! btw, how do you like this board so far? I see your first year anniversary is coming up soon. It's good to have you here.smileYou are correct, Conti is my all time favorite composer, I'm probably his biggest fan. You made some good points, but I think a ROCKY set is a potential cash cow. Intrada released ROCKY IV a while back and it was, I think, an unlimited release. Granted it isn't a box set, but I think a ROCKY box set would do just fine at 3000 copies. But who knows?


    Henry, the board has been good, but I had to back off from posting some of my views. I was scolded by the moderator for making statements on here that some people did not like, including record producers. My father reads the site but will not become a member due to what goes on here. He even told me that I need to watch what I am saying. My thoughts are if the record companies do not want to hear things about their releases, good or bad, then they will never know how to fix future releases. I also do not think anyone has the right to call people names and then expect them to buy their products. If you walked into any store and the store owner started calling you names would you still buy something from them or would you walk out and go somewhere else? I would walk out! So, I have not purchased titles for that reason recently and have missed out on some good music. There is a lot of good news and thoughts here that is interesting, but it comes at a price. I do not see this on other boards where I am a member.

    Going back to the topic, I am hoping that there is a ROCKY set released soon, it is great music, but I do not feel that this release is ROCKY.

     
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