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 Posted:   Jun 19, 2012 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

~For There Were None Better Dept.~













frown

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2012 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   DaveJ   (Member)

Totally agree with the statement, he played the part both with finesse and aplomb, sadly a great acting talent who died prematurely.

I have seen many actors play Sherlock Holmes and although Basil Rathbone is held in high regard by many, he didn't hold a candle to accuracy of Jeremy's portrayal IMHO.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2012 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

I remember watching his performances as Holmes when PBS used to broadcast the Granada series on the show "Mystery", which was hosted by Vincent Price at the time. Brett is the definitive Holmes for me, and his performance helped cement my life-long interest in the character. I believe most, if not all, of his Holmes performances are available on Netflix streaming.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2012 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

DaveJ and Michael Scorefan, welcome! I don't believe we've ever interacted before now. Nice to "meet" you both! smile

While we haven't grad-yee-ated to the Realm of Streaming quite yet, we still remain in awe (shucks notwithstanding) of a little somethin' we call--

"The Big Green Box" (anna small pitcher fer irony's sake!)



big grin (See? It's green!)

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2012 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Performance wise, I rate Brett high but I'm still not sure whether I regard him as the best to play Holmes. Certainly no worse than Top 3 overall.

The episodes themselves, for some reason, I have never warmed up completely to. Some of the changes like having Moriarty be responsible for "The Redheaded League" and not having Watson get married prevented the adaptations from being as "definitive" as the BBC Radio episodes of the 90s were (though the Holmes in those productions, Clive Merrison, was way too eccentric and not very likable).

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2012 - 1:00 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

~With a Little Help from His Friends Dept.~

As brilliant as Brett was, he had valuable assistance from his "Bosworths", the lightning-striking-twice-in-the-same-series Watsons.

Foist, there was David Burke



His was a most ebullient take on Baker Street's resident physician, expressing joy, wonder, and amazement at our Consulting Detective's abilities. Burke coulda--but didn't--take things over the top and conveyed the requisite amount of heartbreak in "The Final Problem."

But The Gold Standard for Watson has to be Edward Hardwicke's serious, studied portrayal of Holmes' bestest pal. "Cecil's boy" really manned up and made the role his own. Never afraid to stand up to Holmes' more eccentric and self-destructive impulses.



...and no one ever defended a lady's honor quite like Hardwicke's Watson...

Except for maybe...


 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2012 - 1:32 PM   
 By:   Lee S   (Member)

Loved the series and agree with everything you said, except I would give the edge to Burke's Watson. He always seemed to have better chemistry with Brett and I was more comfortable with him as my audience surrogate.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2012 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Let's Also Not Forget The Maestro Dept.

Patrick Gowers' stellar theme is another hallmark of the great Granada series. His variations capture every possible mood. We submit to you his work for "The Final Problem."

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2012 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

Thanks for the welcome Jim. I don't post all that often, so that likely explains why we haven't interacted at all. I agree with you about the Patrick Gowers theme. I used to record the episodes, and would watch the opening and closing credits multiple times to hear the theme. I have since acquired the cd to the Granada series, which I enjoy.

I was happy with both actors who portrayed Watson. In fact, when I first saw the episodes (keep in mind I was much younger, and there was a gap between seasons) it took me a couple of episodes to figure out that here was a different actor playing Watson! Although the Granada series was very faithful to the source material, they did make some changes. Some of which I didn't care for, such as the change to the Red Headed League that Eric mentioned above, but one of the changes I really liked, is the series really built up Watson as being a very capable person worthy of teaming up with Holmes.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2012 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

Brett is my favorite Holmes. My first exposure came in 1990, when my sixth grade class watched "The Speckled Band" after reading the short story. I was instantly fascinated by the Holmes character and loved the actor who played him, but it was nearly a decade later that I discovered who he was and that it was actually an episode of a TV show, with many more episodes to enjoy. I only have the The Adventures... and The Return of... on DVD, but I've watched those episodes (especially the very early ones) countless times over the last several years. Have wanted to get that remastered box set since it came out. Just still too expensive for me. One day.

And while I certainly enjoyed Edward Hardwicke as Watson, David Burke remains my favorite.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2012 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Performance wise, I rate Brett high but I'm still not sure whether I regard him as the best to play Holmes. Certainly no worse than Top 3 overall.

The episodes themselves, for some reason, I have never warmed up completely to. Some of the changes like having Moriarty be responsible for "The Redheaded League" and not having Watson get married prevented the adaptations from being as "definitive" as the BBC Radio episodes of the 90s were (though the Holmes in those productions, Clive Merrison, was way too eccentric and not very likable).


i love the tele versions and the radio plays

check 'em out!
bruxce

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2012 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I believe Brett was under contract at UI for awhile in the 70;s.
I always regretted that he never played a murderer on COLUMBO
He would have been great.
Sadly, they wasted him on an ep of HULK
brm

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2012 - 5:23 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I believe Brett was under contract at UI for awhile in the 70;s.
I always regretted that he never played a murderer on COLUMBO
He would have been great.
Sadly, they wasted him on an ep of HULK
brm


Brett also appeared in som ITC programs in the early '70s. Shame he never got to appear on THE PERSUADERS.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2012 - 3:06 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Is that Jeremy Brett I have in the title? Ha ha! I meant "Robert Downey, Jr."! Yeah, that's what I meant...it's new, it's happening, it's now, it's Zimmer!

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2012 - 1:12 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Clive Merrison will always be "my" Holmes. Sure, the character as portrayed by Merrison was not particularly likeable, but - hey - neither was the original Doyle character. So - spot on then!

The Brett shows were - to begin with - essential viewing for me. It was only towards the end of the canon that the shows crept towards that plague of British TV dramas at the time - sloooooow pacing. Holmes stories were anything but slow. Several episodes stand out for me though - the Final Problem and Empty House toofer, The Man with the Twisted Lip, The Greek Interpreter, The Speckled Band (of course), and The Boscombe Valley Mystery. All of these were TV drama at their very, very best - anchored by Brett's vulnerable, sometimes maniacal, coldly distant yet emotionally wrought portrayal. Only regret - A Study In Scarlet was never filmed.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2012 - 5:12 AM   
 By:   BobJ   (Member)

Every so often an actor comes along that makes a character leap off the written page and into reality... this is Jeremy Brett's Holmes for me. His mannerisms, inflections, and over-all demeanor made the writings of Conan Doyle seem more like a biography of Brett performance than a fictitious account of a man who never lived.

Simply superb.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2012 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

Not to take this thread too far afield, but I would place David Suchet's Poirot on a par with Brett's Holmes. After watching Suchet's take, it is hard to watch the great Peter Ustinov, Albert Finney, or Tony Randall as everyone's favorite Agatha Christe Belgian detective.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2012 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   BobJ   (Member)

Not to take this thread too far afield, but I would place David Suchet's Poirot on a par with Brett's Holmes. After watching Suchet's take, it is hard to watch the great Peter Ustinov, Albert Finney, or Tony Randall as everyone's favorite Agatha Christe Belgian detective.


That's funny, because that's how I feel about Maury Chaykin as Nero Wolfe. I just can't bring myself to watch anyone else int he role now.

Does anyone feel that way about Brett's performance?

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2012 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

Not to take this thread too far afield, but I would place David Suchet's Poirot on a par with Brett's Holmes. After watching Suchet's take, it is hard to watch the great Peter Ustinov, Albert Finney, or Tony Randall as everyone's favorite Agatha Christe Belgian detective.


That's funny, because that's how I feel about Maury Chaykin as Nero Wolfe. I just can't bring myself to watch anyone else int he role now.

Does anyone feel that way about Brett's performance?


I still like Thayer David's take on Holme's son. Nero is believed to be the son of Holmes and Irene Adler. Rex Stout never denied it nor did he claim it. He was always coy about the issue.
I really like Brett, but I'm also fond of Rathbone.

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2012 - 8:50 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Another famous English literary detective, G.K. Chesterton's Father Brown has been played by numerous actors, including Alec Guinness, but the definitive one for me will always be Kenneth More, who like Brett, played him on British TV, in More's case in the mid-70s in about a dozen episodes that later made their way across the Atlantic on PBS, where I first discovered them.

 
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