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 Posted:   Apr 4, 2024 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Or it could be the other way around, that in a future of global and unified citizenship, ethnicity is emphasized more individually in clothing etc.


That would make sense.
But... poor Chekov, though.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2024 - 3:22 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Or it could be the other way around, that in a future of global and unified citizenship, ethnicity is emphasized more individually in clothing etc.

I believe that is what I said. A cliche.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2024 - 10:08 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

But... poor Chekov, though.


I think part of an actor's job is to push back against bad costume, hair, and makeup choices. The big stars obviously have a lot of say, often total control over their look, but supporting actors need to stand up for themselves when they're getting the shaft.

And Walter Koenig has said, in other contexts, that he took a humble stance when dealing with his Star Trek film roles. So I'd say he was too passive, and Robert Fletcher did him no favors.

Also, I don't know how Shatner felt about it, but Kirk's civilian suit and shirt in ST III were not to my liking at all. He could have looked so much better. Why those colors, why that cut? That shirt. No point in asking now, I suppose.

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2024 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

But... poor Chekov, though.


I think part of an actor's job is to push back against bad costume, hair, and makeup choices. The big stars obviously have a lot of say, often total control over their look, but supporting actors need to stand up for themselves when they're getting the shaft.

And Walter Koenig has said, in other contexts, that he took a humble stance when dealing with his Star Trek film roles. So I'd say he was too passive, and Robert Fletcher did him no favors.

Also, I don't know how Shatner felt about it, but Kirk's civilian suit and shirt in ST III were not to my liking at all. He could have looked so much better. Why those colors, why that cut? That shirt. No point in asking now, I suppose.


Agreed. The civilian costumes are atrocious in most of these films. I can't, for the life of me, get the image of Bones wearing a nappy in Star Trek II. Ugh.

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2024 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

If it was me I would have them wear their TOS uniforms as causal ware.

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2024 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

If it was me I would have them wear their TOS uniforms as causal ware.

Wasn't that they were wearing in Star Trek The Motion Picture.

I'm probably in the minority, but the best uniforms, not the casual-ware, in TOS were the best, best by far.

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2024 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

If it was me I would have them wear their TOS uniforms as causal ware.

Wasn't that they were wearing in Star Trek The Motion Picture.

I'm probably in the minority, but the best uniforms, not the casual-ware, in TOS were the best, best by far.


I agree and their slight updated look in ST 2009 proved they still work "for a modern audience".

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2024 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   Trekfan   (Member)

Agreed. The civilian costumes are atrocious in most of these films. I can't, for the life of me, get the image of Bones wearing a nappy in Star Trek II. Ugh.

Not civilian wear, but the "field jackets" from "Trek 2" are absolutely awesome. (On the other hand, the brown "Trek 5" combat/landing/field suits are... less spectacular.)

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2024 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Agreed. The civilian costumes are atrocious in most of these films. I can't, for the life of me, get the image of Bones wearing a nappy in Star Trek II. Ugh.

Not civilian wear, but the "field jackets" from "Trek 2" are absolutely awesome. (On the other hand, the brown "Trek 5" combat/landing/field suits are... less spectacular.)



Yes, those looked great because they looked real and functional.
Maybe not forward looking but relatable.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2024 - 7:02 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I recall the ABC - I think Sunday Night movie trailer for Wrath, and how totally cool Shatner looked in that coat.
As a kid, I thought that was incredibly cool, and the movie was such a big deal for me. I recall it clearly

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2024 - 8:01 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

The Enterprise blowing up was certainly a wow moment when I saw it in the theater. It was ingenious to have an effect where it crumbled apart before the big explosion which made it all the more dramatic.

Yes. But what was a profound moment in the annals of ST history was given short shrift IMHO. They should have lingered a bit more on the crew to give the moment its full due. Something unfortunate in a similar manner happened when La Forge had his vision restored in ST: Insurrection. It too deserved more than a perfunctory shot.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2024 - 6:08 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

FYI, those jackets were actually worn in Star Trek TMP. They were updated for TWOK.


 
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