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There’s more to a film than the way it looks, TSFS is full of heart and passion. Words of wisdom.
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Apr 4, 2024 - 8:02 AM
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I agree the space station sequences were amazing and still look excellent. But the Genesis sequences look like something out of Star Trek 5. Maybe they blew their effects budget early on or there was a time crunch. It is puzzling, no question. I was trying to think of any other film that had to portray a similar scenario--a raging inferno with people stuck in the middle of it. And I couldn't think of any. To be fair, I guess the safety risks inherent in the filming would practically demand that the scenes be shot on a soundstage, where the risks could be tightly controlled and minimized. I just thought of one other amazing shot... the incineration and explosion of the primary hull. Of course, when you go frame-by-frame, one can clearly see how it was done. But run the shot in real time and, whew, it's still a devastating gut punch. SO well done. yeah, all the ILM work was superb here, and it rivals pretty much any CGI work done now, at many many times the cost. And the care, the emotion conveyed in the visual effects here is just something not done anymore. That explosion and the descent in the planet is some very effective stuff, dramatically. And the Bird of Prey into Vulcan, moving though the canyons and landing, it is some effective stuff.
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There’s more to a film than the way it looks, TSFS is full of heart and passion. It also has Walter Koenig wearing a silly costume which always makes me laugh (even more so than Koenig’s acting). Agreed. Beyond Scotty, the supporting characters are essentially ballast. None of them really advance the plot and their absence wouldn't have been noticed. Still an enjoyable film, though.
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Apr 4, 2024 - 1:53 PM
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It also has Walter Koenig wearing a silly costume which always makes me laugh (even more so than Koenig’s acting). "The Inglorious Treksperts" did a "Star Trek 3" podcast episode in honor of its 30th anniversary this year, including Kevin Feige as a guest, and it's a solid, rousing discussion: https://www.podbean.com/media/share/dir-4pkp8-1d7ea44c Horner, incidentally, is praised throughout. But speaking of Chekov's outfit, it's definitely a constant pet peeve of the "Inglorious" folks over many years, calling it a "Pushkin collar" or the "Little Lord Fauntleroy outfit". What I didn't know is they mentioned in this episode that costume designer Robert Fletcher was trying to infuse some of the characters' ethnicities into the fashion choices - we see Sulu in a Komono-influenced shirt and jacket, for instance. I think a color and style misstep for Chekhov, though.
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What I didn't know is they mentioned in this episode that costume designer Robert Fletcher was trying to infuse some of the characters' ethnicities into the fashion choices - we see Sulu in a Komono-influenced shirt and jacket, for instance. I think a color and style misstep for Chekhov, though. I would have thought that clothes in the style of that future era would have been more appropriate than the rather cliched idea of mirroring ethnicities.
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What I didn't know is they mentioned in this episode that costume designer Robert Fletcher was trying to infuse some of the characters' ethnicities into the fashion choices - we see Sulu in a Komono-influenced shirt and jacket, for instance. I think a color and style misstep for Chekhov, though. I would have thought that clothes in the style of that future era would have been more appropriate than the rather cliched idea of mirroring ethnicities. Or it could be the other way around, that in a future of global and unified citizenship, ethnicity is emphasized more individually in clothing etc.
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