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 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   steffromuk   (Member)

interesting find on Youtube.
This scientist from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (the guys responsible for the last American rover/drone mission on Mars) is re-evaluating her view on the UFO phenomenon in the light of the last official statements and testimonies from the Pentagon and a couple airforce pilotes in 60 Minutes.

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

"It's Official: UFOs are Real."

Yes, it is is official, unidentified flying objects are real. This does not mean those identified objects are spacecraft. It means they are unidentified.

Acronym abuse.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I saw this last night. I couldn't be more embarrassed for her.

The Government said it's true. It must be true.
The Military said it's true. It must be true.
The pilots said it's true. it must be true.

She said we finally have evidence. Just more of the same blurry out of focus lights in the sky we've gotten for 60 years. She even quoted Carl Sagan before saying such a fundamentally stupid thing.

Then she rambled on these are actual physical objects (the size of jets), in our skies then went on to explain these things are from the The 5th Dimension, popping half in and half out of our reality.

Apparently looking for subs.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Scientist?

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

I watched that. I don't think she did herself any favours with her Ed Wood "joke" or the Criswell clip at the end. Was there anything new there anyway? I'd seen the first video clip footage months ago (and how it was discussed by other scientists, or mathematicians...I can't remember now). Then all this rambling about, "well, these things might not actually be there, in our space, they might be in their own space, and we're seeing them, maybe like through a worm hole, and they just kind of appear and disappear, so...yeah, wow..."

Not impressed.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

"It's Official: UFOs are Real."

Yes, it is is official, unidentified flying objects are real. This does not mean those identified objects are spacecraft. It means they are unidentified.

Acronym abuse.


They should change the acronym to UO's. Cause a lot of times the thing isn't even "flying". It could be a star or planet, fireworks, reflections, and it's the person who's moving not the object.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I watched that. I don't think she did herself any favours with her Ed Wood "joke" or the Criswell clip at the end. Was there anything new there anyway? I'd seen the first video clip footage months ago (and how it was discussed by other scientists, or mathematicians...I can't remember now). Then all this rambling about, "well, these things might not actually be there, in our space, they might be in their own space, and we're seeing them, maybe like through a worm hole, and they just kind of appear and disappear, so...yeah, wow..."

Not impressed.


Yeah, she really dug herself into a deeper and deeper hole by her nonsensical speculations based on zero factual evidence.

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)

I don’t understand. Why would aliens visit us? They don’t seem to stay very long to study us. The laws of faster than light travel state that time slows the faster you go so what they would learn would probably be obsolete when they got home. If they been here in the past they probably learned everything they needed to know. These UFO’s are so small they must be unmanned yet unlimited power? Could we just be a zoo for them to visit but wouldn’t they just watch their NatGeo channel? They don’t seem to take anything from the earth so it’s not resources. The only thing that makes any sense to me is some sort multi-dimensional travel.

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

They're not alien UFOs. They're time machines...

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 12:50 PM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)

Traveling at a velocity that approaches light speed is the only one we can observe in our universe. Multi-dimensional and time travel are constructs of our imagination. Either might be possible but I would think they require enormous amounts of energy that would be observable as heat. But it doesn’t seem to be a scientific mission. Could it be a sort of intergalactic poachers? Maybe we have been put off limits but some have payed someone off and gone on a joyride around planet earth.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

First you have to identify the object before you can even ask "who" are they or "what" are their motives? People are surmising it's a craft, then summarizing if its a craft it's got a pilot, crew, passengers onboard. Even if this was a recording of a real object, there's no evidence its a spacecraft or has passengers on board.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   steffromuk   (Member)

It's funny how each time this topic comes up, almost everybody becomes a science expert and is so quick the debunk any claim.

First, nobody said it was alien. All they say is it's unknown.

Second, our scientific definition of space, time and physics is extremely limited and in constant evolution.
Scientists are starting to question old theories that we all took for hard facts.

So I would recommend a certain level of humility before claiming this is or isn't this or that. Most of us don't know shit outside what's published in the media.

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)

Whether it is from another planet, universe or time I think it is unmanned. I don’t think a sentient being can survive such travel.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   steffromuk   (Member)

My deepest apology.

This person isn't a scientist. I should have done the research before posting.

Sorry about that...

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 9:14 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


It's funny how each time this topic comes up, almost everybody becomes a science expert and is so quick the debunk any claim. First, nobody said it was alien. All they say is it's unknown.


There's nothing new here. Whats her evidence? She said the UFO's are alien craft. Perhaps its a hoax. Why didn't her mind go there first? A good scientist is a skeptic.


Second, our scientific definition of space, time and physics is extremely limited and in constant evolution.
Scientists are starting to question old theories that we all took for hard facts.


Science goes where the evidence takes it. She's conflating these UFO videos with a dozen other theories. She's working backwards from her conclusions.


So I would recommend a certain level of humility before claiming this is or isn't this or that. Most of us don't know shit outside what's published in the media.


I can say I don't know what they are. I can also say I don't except any explanation without credible evidence.

She said it may sound to crazy, but we should take it seriously. Why, because she "believes" its real? Not much humility there.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 10:41 PM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

My deepest apology.

This person isn't a scientist. I should have done the research before posting.

Sorry about that...


Nice irony to the other things you were saying.

Now this guy is a scientist, since that seems to impress you so much.



However, I'll issue a strong sarcasm warning.

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2021 - 12:52 AM   
 By:   Xebec   (Member)

Jesus Christ, American media (in particular in this case) is terrifying in its stupidity.

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2021 - 2:52 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

interesting find on Youtube.
This scientist from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (the guys responsible for the last American rover/drone mission on Mars) is re-evaluating her view on the UFO phenomenon in the light of the last official statements and testimonies from the Pentagon and a couple airforce pilotes in 60 Minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6tDHZj5q5Q


Why does your post say she's a JPL scientist but the topic says she aint?

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2021 - 6:48 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

interesting find on Youtube.
This scientist from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (the guys responsible for the last American rover/drone mission on Mars) is re-evaluating her view on the UFO phenomenon in the light of the last official statements and testimonies from the Pentagon and a couple airforce pilotes in 60 Minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6tDHZj5q5Q


Why does your post say she's a JPL scientist but the topic says she aint?


It's just bloody Fran from Fran Lab. She's an electronics engineer. I'm a subscriber of hers but I will rethink my subscription after this. I expected better.

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2021 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Basically asking why steff didn't edit his first post after editing the topic title, to be consistent.

 
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