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 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 7:06 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Now is the time of year when we celebrate Spring fertility rites, which also unofficially ushers in rum cocktail season for Mr. and Mrs. Birri.

So every year, I mark the occasion by spinning the grandaddy of all exotica LPs, Stravinsky's "Le Sacre du Printemps," aka "The Rite of Spring."

Decades before the invention of the stereo LP, Stravinsky predicted the medium by structuring his masterpiece as two 17-minute LP sides, the ideal length of a stereo LP side. (Researchers in the 1950s determined that distortion increased on stereo LP sides running beyond the 18-minute mark.)

So let's discuss our favorite versions.

I have IIRC seven recordings:

Stravinsky (Columbia, mono)
Stravinsky (Columbia, stereo, later recording)
Bernstein (Columbia, stereo)
Pierre Monteux & Paris Conservatoire (RCA Red Seal Mono)
Dorati & Minneapolis Symphony (Mercury Living Presence, stereo LP inside superior MONO cover art)
Ansermet & L'Orchestre de la Suisse Romande (London, mono)
Stokowski "Fantasia" (Disney, stereo)

I think we would all agree that cover art is at least as important as the music inside, if not more so.

So my two favorites are the Dorati and Ansermet, as the next two posts will demonstrate.

What are your favorites?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 7:08 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 7:44 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I think the Bernstein Columbia is overrated. It is good performance-wise, but lots of string and woodwind details are buried under the percussion and brass.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 7:57 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I had it on LP, many, many years ago, but that is now lost to the ages.
I'd have to scan the web to assign the cover to the recording I had.
I have two recordings on CD, one of which is conducted by Stravinsky himself (I think...I'll have to check).
A lot of this music was copied from some John Williams & Jerry Goldsmith soundtracks.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I don't have a favorite, though I recently purchased a ridiculously low-priced CD box set of all of the Igor-conducted Columbia recordings and last week played the Rites of Spring. I know that critics have often panned the composer's versions but I like this performance. I have others, as well, the most recent one being conducted by Dudamel, coupled with one of my favorite Revueltas pieces, La Noche de los Mayas. A great pairing.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

A lot of this music was copied from some John Williams & Jerry Goldsmith soundtracks.

On one of the "Flint" tracks, Jerry cops a "Rites" melody played I believe by the bassoon or oboe on side 2 of the "Rites" LP.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 8:02 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I don't have a favorite, though I recently purchased a ridiculously low-priced CD box set of all of the Igor-conducted Columbia recordings and last week played the Rites of Spring. I know that critics have often panned the composer's versions but I like this performance.

Does that set include both the earlier mono recording and the later stereo recording? I believe they are two different orchestras, but I don't have them in front of me right now. Rite now. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

The recordings are stereo. The edition was put out by Sony. 22 CDs. I picked up a copy for $28! All conducted by Igor, except one piece by Robert Craft. As this is a bargain edition there is not a lot of info in the box. You could probably find out more by reading reviews.

Hubert Laws did a nice chamber jazz version on CTI Records, and . . .

Frank Zappa was notoriously famous for his love of Stravinsky and Varese. He quotes Rite on his second album, Absolutely Free, and IS quotes appear here and there throughout his prolific career. Zappa composed a piece called "Igor's Boogie" and quoted Agon during a live performance of an orchestral/rock band concert with Mehta and the L.A. Phil 1970. Some time later FZ said that the only person who noticed it was Lalo Schifrin.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

Pierre Boulez with the Cleveland Orchestra on Columbia, released 1969. I tend to believe that the first version of a piece of music one is exposed becomes the favorite one. This was my introduction to the work. I was 16, and it remains my favorite. I don't own any others because this is "it" for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

I have five versions:

BBC National Orchestra of Wales/David Atherton
Berliner Philharmoniker/Herbert von Karajan
Chicago Symphony Orchestra/Sir Georg Solti
London Symphony Orchestra/Antal Dorati
Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra/Antal Dorati

Notice that Dorati recorded it (at least) twice. IMHO the older Minneapolis rendition is superior. von Karajan's version comes in a close second.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Notice that Dorati recorded it (at least) twice. IMHO the older Minneapolis rendition is superior. von Karajan's version comes in a close second.

The Dorati Minneapolis is often cited as being one of the better readings, in my experience.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 10:23 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I don't have a favorite, though I recently purchased a ridiculously low-priced CD box set of all of the Igor-conducted Columbia recordings and last week played the Rites of Spring. I know that critics have often panned the composer's versions but I like this performance.

I got the same set recently and I adore his version. His self conducted Petrushka is my favorite recording as well.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

First owned on vinyl LP in the 1980s it was not a work I enjoyed but these days, with 11 recordings on CD and 2 live on DVD/BluRay, you could say I've become attached.

It's not my favourite Stravinsky piece but, at the right time, it's a great listen. Favourite recording is difficult but I probably prefer Ansermet and Doráti to either of the 2 Bernstein recordings. I know each is shorter but for speed (unless it's edited) Ormandy in 1955 takes the prize smile

I have yet to play the Tilson Thomas/BSO recording so maybe there will be a clear favourite.

In addition to these multiple orchestral recordings I also have Martha Argerich and Daniel Barenboim perform the version for 2 pianos (DVD, 05 Aug 14) which is a wonderful alternative.
Mitch

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)



Le Sacre Du Printemps · Pétrouchka
The New York Philharmonic Orchestra,
Leonard Bernstein

Sony Classical ?– SMK 47629
The Royal Edition – No. 87 Of 100
Released:
1993

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)



Le Sacre Du Printemps · Pétrouchka
The New York Philharmonic Orchestra,
Leonard Bernstein

Sony Classical ?– SMK 47629
The Royal Edition – No. 87 Of 100
Released:
1993


I agree; wonderful version. Stravinsky is said to have thought it was superb.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Le Sacre Du Printemps · Pétrouchka
The New York Philharmonic Orchestra,
Leonard Bernstein

Sony Classical ?– SMK 47629
The Royal Edition – No. 87 Of 100
Released:
1993


Is this the Bernstein/New York Phil recording from 1958?

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

Le Sacre Du Printemps · Pétrouchka
The New York Philharmonic Orchestra,
Leonard Bernstein

Sony Classical ?– SMK 47629
The Royal Edition – No. 87 Of 100
Released:
1993


Is this the Bernstein/New York Phil recording from 1958?


Yes January 1958

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2021 - 4:49 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Le Sacre Du Printemps · Pétrouchka
The New York Philharmonic Orchestra,
Leonard Bernstein

Sony Classical ?– SMK 47629
The Royal Edition – No. 87 Of 100
Released:
1993


Is this the Bernstein/New York Phil recording from 1958?


Yes January 1958


Unfortunately, the pairing you mention has ugly cover art. The original was much better.

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2021 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

I tried an alternate version once (Eduardo Mata/Dallas Symphony Orchestra - Dorian Recordings) and was disappointed.

The first recording I ever got--and the only one I ever listen to--is the Irwin Kostal re-record for "Walt Disney's Fantasia".

If someone could tell me why the Kostal is unacceptable, and some other version wholly superior, I'd give it a listen.

 
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