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 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 5:03 AM   
 By:   Undecided Zebra   (Member)

Have people seen and heard Daniel Pembertons score for Enola Holmes-score full,of energy and nice orchestration-has feel of Hanz Zimmers sherlock scores and Davivd Arnolds Sherlock.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 5:16 AM   
 By:   Simon Underwood   (Member)

Watched the film on Saturday night and *really* loved it, both film and score. Lovely, driving energy, actual themes(!), excitement. Pemberton really is the best of the younger gen for my ears, and this confirms it again. Have placed an order for the CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 5:54 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I guess I'll see the film at some point (I've noticed it's arrived on Netflix), although I'm getting tired of all the 'representational adaptations' - changing the sex from male to female for established characters etc. But then again, maybe Enola Holmes already existed as a character in the source literature; as some relative of Sherlock, I don't know.

Pemberton tends to deliver 9 times out of 10, so I'm definitely checking out the score regardless.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 7:08 AM   
 By:   Gustavo Joseph   (Member)

It's a very nice score, the most tradicional from Pemberton I ever heard.
The main theme is quite charming, and very well spotted, mainly in scenes when the title character behaves freely or against the tradicional expectations.
The investigation theme is the real glue of the score, used in a lot of forms. There's an ethereal voice motif fot the mother and a noce motif for the Marquis, at first pompous and then romantic.
Fun score, pleasent listen.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

I guess I'll see the film at some point (I've noticed it's arrived on Netflix), although I'm getting tired of all the 'representational adaptations' - changing the sex from male to female for established characters etc. But then again, maybe Enola Holmes already existed as a character in the source literature; as some relative of Sherlock, I don't know.

Pemberton tends to deliver 9 times out of 10, so I'm definitely checking out the score regardless.


The character did not appear in any of Doyle's works; she's a creation of author Nancy Springer and has headlined several young adult novels set in the Holmes universe starting around 15 years ago. In fact, Doyle's estate sued Springer, Netflix, and Legendary Pictures for copyright infringement last June.

Your mileage may vary with the film but I wouldn't call it a "representational adaptation." Enola is her own character, much separate and much apart from Sherlock and Mycroft who also appear in the stories (as does Watson). It's not about switching genders to pander but injecting a new character with a new perspective to liven up and in many ways subvert the tropes we're all familiar with.

Anyway, the movie's really good and so is the score. It's a star-making turn for Millie Bobby Brown who has charisma to burn.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Thor, no one’s sex has been changed — Sherlock and Mycroft Holmes are characters in this tale about their much younger sister. She is not someone mentioned by Arthur Conan Doyle, but the source material in this case is a series of I think six young adult novels written around a decade ago. I certainly prefer this version of a Holmes sister to the one recently inserted into the Moffat Sherlock (which I generally like a lot but that last episode was mostly terrible).

As a Holmes fan I really enjoyed this film, and the score even moreso. Brown is a talented lead and pulls off the breaking the fourth wall thing quite well if not on the level of Phoebe Waller Bridge. Helena Bonham Carter was a lot of fun as the Holmes matriarch. I was surprised by how much I liked Henry Cavill as Sherlock, although most of the character faults Doyle gave him seem to have been passed along to Mycroft in this (and Mycroft unfortunately is also depicted as the less intelligent brother in this...basically more of antagonist which is a shame). Also a big shout out to Burn Gorman who is fantastic in literally anything he does.

This won’t replace Man from UNCLE as my favorite Pemberton score but it is still quite wonderful.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Brown is a talented lead and pulls off the breaking the fourth wall thing quite well if not on the level of Phoebe Waller Bridge.

Yup, and I don't think it's coincidental the film's director, Harry Bradbeer, directed all but one episode of FLEABAG.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Brown is a talented lead and pulls off the breaking the fourth wall thing quite well if not on the level of Phoebe Waller Bridge.

Yup, and I don't think it's coincidental the film's director, Harry Bradbeer, directed all but one episode of FLEABAG.


Wonderful film. And the score was good enough that I noticed it was there and I am interested in finding it and listening to it. These days that's a rarity.

There was one fourth wall break that had my family laughing so hard we had to stop the film. ("It is I!")

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

I loved the film, which had a real 80s vibe to me, and enjoyed the score as well. I hope there will be sequels.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I agree; hopefully this is popular enough that they just decide to adapt the other five novels:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Enola_Holmes_Mysteries

I’d be interested to see how they treat Watson (he doesn’t show up in this first story, and Sherlock takes on some of his qualities while Mycroft takes on some of Sherlock’s traditional qualities).

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 9:33 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Mike and Yavar -- thanks for the info on the origin of the character.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

I loved the film, which had a real 80s vibe to me, and enjoyed the score as well. I hope there will be sequels.

Is 80's shorthand for "good"? smile I was thinking while I was watching it that I would really have enjoyed seeing it int the theater. Not because there was spectacle but because it would be nice to see a really good film that my whole family would like that WASN'T all big spectacle.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   Luc Van der Eeken   (Member)

Haven't seen the film (don't have Netflix) but enjoying the hell out of the score. And about time too cause I felt his Dark Crystal score was really bland and I won't even comment on 'Birds of Prey' and 'Into the Spider-verse'. But this is the real thing and a strong candidate for score of the year.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

I loved the film, which had a real 80s vibe to me, and enjoyed the score as well. I hope there will be sequels.

Is 80's shorthand for "good"? smile I was thinking while I was watching it that I would really have enjoyed seeing it int the theater. Not because there was spectacle but because it would be nice to see a really good film that my whole family would like that WASN'T all big spectacle.


Yes, in my book 80's is good!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Stormie   (Member)

I saw this film as a friend's pick without any prior expectations and thoroughly enjoyed it. The photography made the country scenes look stunning, the performances were great throughout and featured many household names in small roles, and the music was so good, I ordered the CD as soon as I finished watching it.

Beautiful fun main theme bounces along, no cliched victoriana music here, and I've lost count of the replays it has already had.

Probably going to be my nominee for score of the year.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   jwb1   (Member)

The style of the film and music is very much a rip off of the Downey films.

I thought Henry was wasted in the role. Brown was good. It was a little long and really subplots were not developed and kinda lazy.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 3:47 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I'll join the chorus of enthusiasm for ENOLA HOLMES. Really fun, sparkling film with terrific performances from all concerned. Millie Bobbie Brown especially looks destined to be a big star. She is insanely charismatic and charming and carries off the difficult task of breaking the 4th wall effortlessly. We all knew she was something special with STRANGER THINGS, but this proves that was no fluke.

Daniel Pemberton's score is that rarest of things for me these days: a score that catches my attention with melody and orchestration...and doesn't beat you over the head with wall-to-wall music or is drowned out by obnoxious sound effects. Also pleased to see it that it is another rarity (at least for Netflix films), in that it is released on CD. So far only in the EU apparently.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 9:51 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I didn't warm to the score at first on its own, but it was lovely in the film. I also echo the praise for the film by others in this thread. It was a lot of fun and hit all the right notes. After watching the movie, I am hoping the score warms on me even more. It is certainly better than the usual modern score.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2020 - 11:59 PM   
 By:   Randy Watson   (Member)

The style of the film and music is very much a rip off of the Downey films.

Uhm, no it's not. Ritchie's films are way more stylish, lots of flashy cinematography and fast edits. Also Pemberton's score may have some similarities with the Zimmer scores but is overall more traditional.

 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2020 - 7:54 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Also Pemberton's score may have some similarities with the Zimmer scores but is overall more traditional.

I would say its biggest similarity is its prominence in the mix. Not necessarily a bad thing, but very noticeable and surprising given that non-Zimmer scores tend to get buried these days. There's a chase scene early in the film and the rhythm and cadence and there-ness of the music is very Zimmer in spirit.

 
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