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Yeah, I was thinking this week (especially since The Star Wars Show did a segment on the largely problematic "remastered" editions from two years ago for some reason) that The Mouse has not done their own Complete Editions for any of the Star Wars films.
I figure it almost has to be coming. I keep hoping that Matessino gets an Ultimate crack at it, like he has for Superman, Close Encounters, and E.T.
I'm told rebellions are built on hope.
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Yeah, I was thinking this week (especially since The Star Wars Show did a segment on the largely problematic "remastered" editions from two years ago for some reason) that The Mouse has not done their own Complete Editions for any of the Star Wars films.
I figure it almost has to be coming. I keep hoping that Matessino gets an Ultimate crack at it, like he has for Superman, Close Encounters, and E.T.
I'm told rebellions are built on hope.
I'm with you there... this video as randomly appeared on YouTube from the Disney Music: https://youtu.be/WSOzvCtaHmg talking about the remastering. It was posted just last week but the link seems to take you to the 2018 editions. I'm guessing this is just a random posting and doesn't relate to new releases being prepared. If so, it's kinda depressing hearing the contributors talking in such heartfelt ways about preserving etc. when it still feels like they have only preserved some of the music and not in the same way as the specialist labels do (i.e. the aforementioned Superman). I appreciate they are just on Disney payroll but a shame they were only given the opportunity to do a partial job (and judging by a lot of the comments, not a very good job either). Oh well.
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Although these two are the same content, I thought the lower one was differently mastered. I could be mistaken.
My preferred set is the very first issue of the 'black' cover, the book version with the slipcase.
The re-issue of that in the jewel case, and obviously without the book, is, I think, exactly the same discs, just without the book.
The oddest reissues are the ones that are the complete score discs, but packaged in mini versions of the original LP album art with the original LP track listings printed on them.
I wouldn't mind having the original album programs reissued that way, but it's an incongruent way of presenting the complete score discs.
Cheers
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The music itself is more-or-less identical, however the '97 SE contains liner notes whereas the '04 reissue does not. So I'd have to go with the '97 SE, although I do not own it personally.
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Yeah, I was thinking this week (especially since The Star Wars Show did a segment on the largely problematic "remastered" editions from two years ago for some reason) that The Mouse has not done their own Complete Editions for any of the Star Wars films.
I figure it almost has to be coming. I keep hoping that Matessino gets an Ultimate crack at it, like he has for Superman, Close Encounters, and E.T.
I'm told rebellions are built on hope.
Since the Superman 40th, I've been hoping that Matessino would have the opportunity to do a 40th Anniversary Edition of "The Empire Strikes Back" from its first generation 24-track scoring session master tapes. I'm hoping that work is already in progress and will be complete and revealed later this year. It was recorded by the same engineer, in the same studio, on the same recorder as Superman, and of course with the same orchestra and conductor. Assuming the masters have not been damaged in previous handling and storage, I would expect a similar result. I would LOVE to hear ESB the same way I've been hearing Superman recently.
I agree that the "remastered" editions from two years ago are largely problematic and inconsistent in quality. Despite the statements of those involved with the remastering, I can't imagine this being anywhere near the best that can be done with this material. Shawn Murphy has done some great motion picture sound, but I've come to doubt that he's the best choice for handling analog multi-track to Red Book CD transfer.
Edit: I spoke too soon. I thought I remembered Shawn Murphy exclusively handling IV, V & IV, but going back to the December 2015 interview, I found that was incorrect. It was Dann Thompson that located the supposedly original masters and performed the digital transfers from them for the above mentioned "remastered" editions. I don't find it clear if "original" is ever referring to the original 24-track scoring session master tapes. I don't believe that there was an additional digital transfer performed for the later CDs. I don't know how much of the lack of quality to attribute to the analog-to-digital transfers, vs. any processing and mixing that occurred between that and being pressed on the CD. I'm not sure now who was responsible for that portion of the work.
Here's that full interview if anyone is interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuH7uznb2bU
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I'm with you there... this video as randomly appeared on YouTube from the Disney Music: https://youtu.be/WSOzvCtaHmg talking about the remastering. It was posted just last week but the link seems to take you to the 2018 editions. I'm guessing this is just a random posting and doesn't relate to new releases being prepared. If so, it's kinda depressing hearing the contributors talking in such heartfelt ways about preserving etc. when it still feels like they have only preserved some of the music and not in the same way as the specialist labels do (i.e. the aforementioned Superman). I appreciate they are just on Disney payroll but a shame they were only given the opportunity to do a partial job (and judging by a lot of the comments, not a very good job either). Oh well.
Yes, I think they are obviously talking about the 2018 editions, which of course was only "remastering" the album assembly (which I think was actually done in 2015 for the vinyl releases), and with results that have fallen way short of what seems like should be possible (with my comments about the similarities between Superman and ESB above being a prime example). Yes, it is depressing, and not just kinda.
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Well, tomorrow is the official 40th Anniversary.
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