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 Posted:   Feb 21, 2019 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   SteveP   (Member)

I think every post I’ve put on here has been a positive, so please excuse this!

I’m 55 and have been a part of this soundtrack record/cd collecting hobby/obsession/community – call it what you will, for about 40 of those years (originally from the days of Magpie Records, Movie Boulevard, 58 Dean Street etc here in the UK, and later, with the closing of these specialist suppliers having to go further afield – usually to the company that’s released the disc). I’ve loved the whole collecting thing over the years.

But now, I have to say the increasing costs of international postage, taxes and customs are increasingly starting to hurt, to the point that I now rarely take a chance on a disc I may possibly like, and restrict myself only to discs I know that I want.

I’ve just picked up my Body Heat CD from the Post Office. Price of the double CD was $24.95, add to this postage of $15.50, bringing the price to $40.45. This morning I got a customs and tax card through my letterbox – there’s a parcel to be picked up at your post office, £12.29 (Google tells me today that is $16.05). So for a CD that was $24.95, I have paid a wopping great $56.50. It’s gotten ridiculous.

I have always been one for having silvery discs over downloads, but the way I would go now (if given the choice) would undoubtedly be downloads. Sadly (I may be wrong), I think it’s the rights and restrictions from copyright holders within our little niche market which prevent this and allow for only restricted pressing numbers. I am definitely old school, and yes, I prefer to have discs, covers, and sleeve notes etc. But even I’m beginning to wonder if this clinging on to physical media is just a stubborn refusal to change. Can't a limited number of downloads be negotiated? Perhaps I’m being a naïve and techno ignoramus here? But if someone as passionate as myself is cutting down on their soundtrack buying, in what is a very small genre market which needs every sale it can get, then I’m sure there are others who have done likewise. Is there a way around these rights issues in the future which will allow downloads? (even if just a restricted number). I would actually experiment and buy more if this were the case!

The fact that this purchase was to replace a faulty disc in the first place irks and grates and makes it hurt all the more; though I’m the dumb ass there for not originally getting back to the supplier!

Rant over. Next posting will be a positive one!

 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2019 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

I know how you feel, sir. I'm pretty much done as well.

I was fortunate recently that one title I desperately wanted - The World Is Not Enough - was being sold by 007store in the UK, having got stock from LLL. The price was only 23 quid.

All I can suggest is you keep an eye on the European stores:

Chris's Soundtrack Corner
Vascocine
Music Box
Rosebud

I haven't tried them, but Backtrack, Intermezzo, Beat Records, and Tarantula Records might also be worth a go.

All these stores stock titles from the US speciality labels.

Also a mention for Arksquare in Japan who are very reasonable.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2019 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Yup, a two disc set sent to the UK is bloody expensive now, but as it's only once (maybe twice) a year for me these days, I can bite the bullet.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2019 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

I have been ordering CDs from all around the world for about 20 years and I have had to pay customs only once. Until now when my order of The Thin Red Line from La-La-Land got caught by the office. It arrived here to Europe in 4 days and it's been sitting at the post office waiting for custom clearance for more than a week...

The CD set was not cheap in the first place, add to that 23$ for shipping, and as I count I'm going to pay another 25-30 $ for taxes and customs. Probably the most expensive CD in my collection - when I will finally get it...

So yes, this hobby is getting more and more expensive, but unfortunately I'm oldschool too and don't really find enjoyment in downloading music. I guess when I buy my next CD set I will choose a European retailer instead.

 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2019 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   MD   (Member)

20% VAT for every package from US & Asia (Japan) with price over 24 EUR.
Package with value 100 EUR: + 20 EUR to state treasury taken by customs + 3,60 EUR taken by post office for keeping the package while in customs process.
Final price for 100 EUR package from Japan 123,60 EUR
I am living a customs & postal dream smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2019 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I'm so glad that just over a year ago I decided to buy some sets that I'd been meaning to buy for a while: the big Lethal Weapon set from LLL (when it was on sale for $100), the three disc FSM Wild Bunch & the two disc Alien from Intrada, all got through without customs payment, it wouldn't happen today.

 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2019 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

I have been ordering CDs from all around the world for about 20 years and I have had to pay customs only once. Until now when my order of The Thin Red Line from La-La-Land got caught by the office. It arrived here to Europe in 4 days and it's been sitting at the post office waiting for custom clearance for more than a week...

So the package just had The Thin Red Line? What was the value displayed on the customs label?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2019 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   SteveP   (Member)

I’m cooling down now…

I’ve bought loads of CD’s and DVD’s from the US in the past, but I can recall only twice paying customs – for a couple of large DVD box sets. I can see, reading the label that’s been stuck on this package, “Customs charges are applied to imports into the EU with a value over £15.” So thanks litefoot for that list of European sellers. I’ll give them a go in future…

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2019 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

I have been ordering CDs from all around the world for about 20 years and I have had to pay customs only once. Until now when my order of The Thin Red Line from La-La-Land got caught by the office. It arrived here to Europe in 4 days and it's been sitting at the post office waiting for custom clearance for more than a week...

So the package just had The Thin Red Line? What was the value displayed on the customs label?


I don't know, I haven't seen the package yet. They just sent me the papers to fill and asked for a copy of the receipt.

 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2019 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

I have been ordering CDs from all around the world for about 20 years and I have had to pay customs only once. Until now when my order of The Thin Red Line from La-La-Land got caught by the office. It arrived here to Europe in 4 days and it's been sitting at the post office waiting for custom clearance for more than a week...

So the package just had The Thin Red Line? What was the value displayed on the customs label?


I don't know, I haven't seen the package yet. They just sent me the papers to fill and asked for a copy of the receipt.


Sorry, I didn't read your earlier post properly. Is TRL the only item in it?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2019 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

I have been ordering CDs from all around the world for about 20 years and I have had to pay customs only once. Until now when my order of The Thin Red Line from La-La-Land got caught by the office. It arrived here to Europe in 4 days and it's been sitting at the post office waiting for custom clearance for more than a week...

So the package just had The Thin Red Line? What was the value displayed on the customs label?


I don't know, I haven't seen the package yet. They just sent me the papers to fill and asked for a copy of the receipt.


Sorry, I didn't read your earlier post properly. Is TRL the only item in it?


Yes, it is. But, unfortunately, it is expensive enough (+ shipping) to be worthy for a little tax/customs payment.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2019 - 1:27 AM   
 By:   CheadleHeathboy1947   (Member)

The cut off point of £15 sterling over which you have to pay customs duty is far too low and should be increased to £30. I've been an eBayer now for 17 years and it means I have to be careful what I buy from the USA as, if it's only a few pennies over £15 sterling ($20 dollars), it's like paying twice for the item. Added to that, my local Royal Mail delivery office in Leek Road, Stoke on Trent, invariably never puts a customs duty card through my letterbox when my package arrives there and I have go chasing after it. This is more difficult than it sounds, because without that card with the customs number on it, the counter staff won't help and can't be bothered to go in the back and look for my package. Eventually, of course, it'll get sent back to the seller in America because I failed to collect it. But how could I collect it without a card? The last time this happened, because you can't reach the management there by phone or email, I sent a Recorded Delivery letter to the office manager explaining the situation and he must have received it and read it because they soon put the card through my letterbox. But I shouldn't have to run around after them like that. They should have systems in place whereby I automatically receive the card if they are holding a package for me that I have to pay duty on. Of course, after we leave the EU at the end of March (assuming we do), we'll then have to pay customs duty on anything we buy from an EU country. One way out of this as far as items from the USA are concerned would be for the seller to charge his UK customers $5 dollars extra for postage and drop the price of the item by $5 dollars, then any item which costs just over £15 sterling will suddenly be under that amount and not attract import duty. However, I'm not sure about the legality of such a move.

 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2019 - 2:27 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

I have been ordering CDs from all around the world for about 20 years and I have had to pay customs only once. Until now when my order of The Thin Red Line from La-La-Land got caught by the office. It arrived here to Europe in 4 days and it's been sitting at the post office waiting for custom clearance for more than a week...

So the package just had The Thin Red Line? What was the value displayed on the customs label?


I don't know, I haven't seen the package yet. They just sent me the papers to fill and asked for a copy of the receipt.


Sorry, I didn't read your earlier post properly. Is TRL the only item in it?


Yes, it is. But, unfortunately, it is expensive enough (+ shipping) to be worthy for a little tax/customs payment.


When you get it, I'd be curious to know what the customs label value says. Thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2019 - 3:43 AM   
 By:   steve matthewman   (Member)

It would be interesting to know if the high cost of overseas postage and the UK customs / postal charges are having any effect on orders with La Land, Intrada etc.
They must realises overseas orders are falling because of these extortionate costs.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2019 - 3:53 AM   
 By:   CheadleHeathboy1947   (Member)

Oddly, nothing I send for from amazon in the USA has customs charges levied on it, whether it's a CD or a DVD costing over $20. I often wonder why this is. Maybe amazon have some kind of arrangement with UK customs.

 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2019 - 4:02 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Crap. I've recently ordered 2 CDs from SAE which I haven't received yet. I'm going to get hit with this, aren't I?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2019 - 4:16 AM   
 By:   films1   (Member)

Same thing happened to me , I ordered dracula deluxe from SAE and was hit by the customs charge , I did ask them to put a minimum value on , however they put full value on , when i asked them why this had been done , apparently they have to put full value on . and along with postage came to nearly 55 dollars

I therefore have made the decision not to buy anymore . Which is a shame , the cost is too high .

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2019 - 4:22 AM   
 By:   Stovepipe46   (Member)

This is something that rankles me as well. As I posted on an earlier board a few months ago, I'm now 72 living on a pension so I can't afford this hobby anymore. Something has to be really great for me to buy now and gone are the days when I would pick things up on spec. I certainly can't afford to buy from the U.S any more. I usually order from Quartet or MusicBox and I find that it's probably a little cheaper but still horrendously expensive now. How this will impact buyer here once the U.K. Has left the EU time alone will tell.

 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2019 - 4:25 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

I thought it was generally known that SAE have changed in that regard in the last few months. Everything will be taxed on entry to the UK. That's why I don't order from them anymore. Varese have already changed, as their orders are fulfilled by Naxos.

I just want to know if LLL have followed suit.

 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2019 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

Oddly, nothing I send for from amazon in the USA has customs charges levied on it, whether it's a CD or a DVD costing over $20. I often wonder why this is. Maybe amazon have some kind of arrangement with UK customs.

If you order from Amazon US for delivery to the UK, they include customs charges within the postal charge, under Amazon Global Shipping. It's a much better system because it avoids the Post Office administration charge. It's a pity the CD labels don't do that as well.

 
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