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 Posted:   Jan 20, 2019 - 8:55 PM   
 By:   JThree   (Member)


Guys,

Has anyone here heard any stories about film/tv composers who did a score, but it wasn't released to the public, and the artist thought it should have an album/CD put out? Would to hear a few stories about some of their favorite works that the company didn't think was so great.

==JThree

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2019 - 10:20 PM   
 By:   gmontag451   (Member)

Over the years I've heard of a studio opting not to release an album because a film (or it's soundtrack) just isn't going to be profitable enough to bother with financially, or because of inconvenient politics/legalities, but I've never heard of an album being held back because of an executive's dislike of the music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2019 - 10:35 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

Well... I don't know if Williams WANTED it out, but there WAS supposed to be a release of Heartbeeps when the film came out, but of course that never happened.
The same with Raggedy Man... I believe it was on the poster that it was going to be released by MCA.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 6:01 AM   
 By:   pete   (Member)

Bear McCreary said many times he wished for a Walkibg Dead release. He seems quite keen on always trying to release his scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 6:28 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Elliot Goldenthal had prepared a (great) score-only album from BATMAN & ROBIN that was then scrapped when, presumably, the film didn't do to well in the box office. Again, though, not because the execs didn't like it, just that there seemed to be no financial gain.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 6:57 AM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)

I remember Christophe Beck was very frustrated back in the Buffy days (season 2 - 4) about Fox not releasing the score. He stated it in many interviews. And my God, I was too!!! lol!
Well, 20 years later it finally happened! (if you dont count the very short CD from Rounder....)

He always seems really proud of his Buffy and Angel score and always retweets and answers stuff about Buffy today.
Also retweeted a lot about LLL's release last year (much unlike Wanker and Duncan).

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I think film execs just look at how profitable a potential soundtrack is and compare it to the (possible) legal hassle of releasing it. Personal taste is an unlikely consideration here.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Christopher Young wanted Spider-Man 3 to get a score release.

Jerry Goldsmith wanted like four of his own scores released on albums, apparently. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Until the 1970s only a few films were accompanied by album releases. I'm sure all the composers would have enjoyed the extra exposure, but it just wasn't the norm.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

Yared's TROY score

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

In the sixties soundtrack albums were the norm. Just look at how many soundtracks came out that decade by Bernstein, North, Mancini, Barry, Goldsmith, Rota, Schifrin, Jones, Mandel, Morricone, Hefti, Myers, Bennett, Goodwin, and so many more.

I've heard of a few cases of composers preparing album releases--choosing material, doing edits, track placement, etc.--for releases that never happened. I never got the impression that film composers lost any sleep over albums that didn't get released. Scoring films was their job, so they just moved on to the next one.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Obviously John Scott who released a lot of scores on his own label. Which begs the question, how come he was able to release his own scores but not other composers?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Goldenthal has started releasing stuff on his own label too. Although not so much film music anymore.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 12:50 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Tim Truman - Miami Vice season 5

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

I'm pretty sure Goldsmith was happy when the LP of LEGEND called "LEGEND THE MUSIC OF JERRY GOLDSMITH" was released. I know I was. I remember living in Woodinville Washington near Seattle in 1985 and picking it up at the Seattle Tower Records back then. They had only One LP copy of it and I grabbed that puppy up pronto. Same with the LP of Goldsmith's THE FINAL CONFLICT which I also remember purchasing there. Great memories of wonderful Soundtrack LP collecting days!



 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   gmontag451   (Member)

LOL yes more often I've heard that a composer *didn't* want an album release, and always from Goldsmith, Williams or Horner.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   Maestro Sartori   (Member)

I met John Ottman around five years or so before La La Land records released his expanded Superman Returns. I had asked him to autograph the official first release, which was around 45 minutes long, and then ate up with CD-ROM (does anyone still do that anymore??!!) material which took up valuable disc space. He asked me if I had the 2-disc bootleg, and if I didn't have it, that I SHOULD FIND IT. It's much better that what was released. I was floored, and immediately suspected that perhaps he had a little something to do with the bootleg leak.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

Christopher Young and John Debney did many promo’s when a commercial release was not an option.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 2:40 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Lalo Schifrin has his own label (Adelph) which despite releasing some of his film scores (and some NON film music as well) did release Jerry Fielding's score for "The Enforcer".

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

In the sixties soundtrack albums were the norm. Just look at how many soundtracks came out that decade by Bernstein, North, Mancini, Barry, Goldsmith, Rota, Schifrin, Jones, Mandel, Morricone, Hefti, Myers, Bennett, Goodwin, and so many more.

Yes, there were many albums. But also many significant omissions: PSYCHO, MARNIE, FAHRENHEIT 451, JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS, THE POWER, THE GREEN BERETS, THE PRIVATE LIFE OF SHERLOCK HOLMES, THE WORLD OF HENRY ORIENT, THE BRIDGE AT REMAGEN, BIRDMAN OF ALCATRAZ, THE STORY OF RUTH, LOST COMMAND, FIRECREEK, THE OUTRAGE, CHEYENNE AUTUMN . . . It was the older composers who were falling out of fashion. For most of the decade there was a exactly one album of Bernard Herrmann's film music in print (and most of its music was by Alfred Newman).

 
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