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 Posted:   Dec 23, 2018 - 9:46 AM   
 By:   Jerome Piroue   (Member)

And you thought THE BRIDE WORE BLACK would be the only Bernard Herrmann gift at year's end!

Wrong! big grin

There's MUCH more, and it's all here: https://newdiscovery.bandcamp.com/

On "The Final Day General Ketchum and How He Died", at 5:20, there's a prime example of Herrmann recycling, except it's the other way around. Here's the original melody, and it shows up again, slightly modified, in one of BH's later masterpieces.

Enjoy.

 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2018 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC news! Thanks for this unexpected Christmas gift.

 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2018 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I saw this on FB and really like it, it's very "him".

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 25, 2018 - 9:41 PM   
 By:   TZfan01   (Member)

Thanks Jerome for the heads up about these recordings . I just bought most of them. I heard some cues in there that Herrmann would later use in Jason and the Argonauts .

 
 Posted:   Dec 26, 2018 - 1:03 AM   
 By:   Jerome Piroue   (Member)

I'm surprised these newly discovered BH works haven't raised morte interest... yet.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 26, 2018 - 6:16 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Well between being really expensive and badly recorded...

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 26, 2018 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   Kim Peterson   (Member)

Any chance all of these would be released on a CD? They sound pretty good, better than an electronic version,
but they are pretty expensive for what you would be getting.

 
 Posted:   Dec 26, 2018 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Any chance all of these would be released on a CD? They sound pretty good, better than an electronic version, but they are pretty expensive for what you would be getting.

I'm sure there's a chance, but I wouldn't imagine it's a very good chance. This stuff is beyond obscure.

Right now, if you buy all five scores, it comes to $25 for 34 minutes of music. If they pressed a CD and charged the usual $20, there would be more cost to them and less revenue. And people would complain that 34 minutes was too short for a CD, it should cost less.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2018 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I see they've added another score, from the 1935 radio drama "Cynara."

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2018 - 6:54 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Why in the world are these new recordings done in mono (well there's a tiny bit of stereo echo I suppose, but still).

Just...mind boggling.

 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2019 - 4:59 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I bought these. Yes, it is expensive for just a short amount of music, but I think we have to understand that prices have to take into account how niche something is.

If we want people to produce really, really niche music that will sell maybe a few hundred units (probably not even one thousand), we have to take it on the chin that it will be more expensive than something that is easy to sell in large numbers.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2019 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   lacoq   (Member)

Mr. Woolston - since you have these, are they indeed mono-ish as reflected in the samples or beautiful stereo?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2019 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   Merry Goldsmith   (Member)

You know that you can listen to the complete tracks (in MP3 at 128kbps) on the website for free? Not only "samples". Listen to them yourself. The files you can buy are only in higher resolution, but not mixed differently. They are not mono.

For the fans asking for a CD. Did you buy this one, which also contains music from the "Crime Classics"?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0026OESC4

 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2019 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

Why in the world are these new recordings done in mono (well there's a tiny bit of stereo echo I suppose, but still).

Just...mind boggling.


I haven't hear them all but I hear wide stereo separation in Crime Classics.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2019 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   Kim Peterson   (Member)

You know that you can listen to the complete tracks (in MP3 at 128kbps) on the website for free? Not only "samples". Listen to them yourself. The files you can buy are only in higher resolution, but not mixed differently. They are not mono.

For the fans asking for a CD. Did you buy this one, which also contains music from the "Crime Classics"?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0026OESC4


No, I did not, well I just did thanks for the heads up.

 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2019 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Mr. Woolston - since you have these, are they indeed mono-ish as reflected in the samples or beautiful stereo?

The stereo spread isn't very wide, but it is stereo.

The best thing is that the downloads are superior to CD quality: 48KHz, 24-bit. In Apple Lossless format, the files are around 2300kbps, by a long way the highest resolution files in my entire collection.

(Most of my collection is CD rips, which generally come out between 600kbps and 1000kbps in lossless form.)

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2019 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

For the fans asking for a CD. Did you buy this one, which also contains music from the "Crime Classics"?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0026OESC4


I was warned off that one by somebody who told me that the interpretations were not at all faithful to the original Herrmann. Was he being too obsessive? What do you think?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2019 - 6:54 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

The Crime Classics are stereo but the others most certainly are very close to mono as to simply be enjoyable.

And yes, Bandcamp you can listen to the whole thing without having to buy (I believe it's higher than 128 quality too but don't quote me on that). That's a Bandcamp standard.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2019 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   Merry Goldsmith   (Member)

For the fans asking for a CD. Did you buy this one, which also contains music from the "Crime Classics"?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0026OESC4


I was warned off that one by somebody who told me that the interpretations were not at all faithful to the original Herrmann. Was he being too obsessive? What do you think?


Yes, of course. "Psycho" is reduced to a VERY small orchestra. I does not sound like the recordings done by Herrmann, McNeely or Elfman with a full string orchestra. But it's still fine. A different "chamber music" approach to the score, fully matching the music for the "Crime Classics" episodes, which were originally composed for (max.) four musicians.

http://www.bernardherrmann.org/legacy/site/db/old/m_rad_ad.html

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2021 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   jkruppa   (Member)

I've been going down a BH rabbit hole lately and went back to look at the New Discovery bandcamp page. Seems they've been very busy. The recording that struck me today was PIzarro: His Heart on a Golden Knife, for oboes, English Horn and harp. Beautifully done:

https://newdiscovery.bandcamp.com/track/pizarro-his-heart-on-a-golden-knife

 
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