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 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   TominAtl   (Member)

And now onto serious matters...

An interesting story in the UK.

A 21 year old girl with no underlying health problems died of a heart attack this week. A tragedy, but nothing surprising - these things happen. What was interesting was that after her family claimed she had a cough the coroner listed the death as being due to Coronovirus. The hospital where she died say this was not the case. She did not test positive for Coronovirus.

Her family have been accused of lying and dramatising her death. But more interestingly the media have been accused of using her death and claiming it was due to the virus to push the current agenda in this country to try to scare younger people into staying at home and treating the virus seriously. Making people treat this seriously is important, but lying about deaths such as this young girls is dreadful. It also makes you look suspiciously at other stories that are out there at the moment of other people dying of the virus with (and this bit is always over egged) NO UNDERLYING HEALTH PROBLEMS. Clearly in the case of this girl SHE DID HAVE AN UNDERLYING HEALTH PROBLEM WITH HER HEART. How many more of these cases of people dying with no underlying health problems are untrue?


If they did lie about her heart and reason for passing away, definitely shame on them on all fronts. Inexcusable.

However, now that you brought up the issue of heart health, it is now being reported that many actual cases of heart attacks and heart problems are showing up with Covid-19 cases, and on those with no known heart issues at all. They just can't tell if the virus is the cause of the heart attack or damage or if it's the body's massive response to the virus that is doing so. Cardiologists are having to see if those coming in for heart problems have to be tested for Covid-19 and then also Covid-19 patients now are having to be monitored possibly DEVELOPING heart damage.

Man...what an evil and insidious disease this thing is.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I also feel very lucky in that where I live is semi rural. I can walk just about anywhere and into the woods, a spacious park, and lonely (and lovely) country walks. Even the town I live in (the edge of really) and the neighboring village we can walk on the pavement, and cross the road to avoid passing someone coming the opposite way. In our case the beautiful spring weather has been a godsend, not a curse.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)

Secondly the worst hit area is Lombardy, which contains the city of Milan, but not Rome, which is further south

Looking at the map for Italy, there's a big red dot over Rome, a small dot over San Marino, nothing over Milan. Do those represent where cases are being hospitalized as opposed to place of origin?


Are there any official coronavirus maps made in Italy itself? That would clear this up.


This will help


https://www.piersoft.it/covid19/#7/47.876/11.920

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Man...what an evil and insidious disease this thing is.

Well, that's assuming there's a true correlation with heart damage. There are alot of horrible contagious diseases which effect people outright or as they age, but I still rate Zika as particularly evil.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Secondly the worst hit area is Lombardy, which contains the city of Milan, but not Rome, which is further south

Looking at the map for Italy, there's a big red dot over Rome, a small dot over San Marino, nothing over Milan. Do those represent where cases are being hospitalized as opposed to place of origin?


Are there any official coronavirus maps made in Italy itself? That would clear this up.


This will help


https://www.piersoft.it/covid19/#7/47.876/11.920


Guess we can disregard the map I was looking at. Its completely inaccurate. Thanks for the clarification guys.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Guess we can disregard the map I was looking at. Its completely inaccurate. Thanks for the clarification guys.

Maybe it's not visually accurate for Italy, but it looks accurate for my state.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

And now onto serious matters...

An interesting story in the UK.

A 21 year old girl with no underlying health problems died of a heart attack this week. A tragedy, but nothing surprising - these things happen. What was interesting was that after her family claimed she had a cough the coroner listed the death as being due to Coronovirus. The hospital where she died say this was not the case. She did not test positive for Coronovirus.

Her family have been accused of lying and dramatising her death. But more interestingly the media have been accused of using her death and claiming it was due to the virus to push the current agenda in this country to try to scare younger people into staying at home and treating the virus seriously. Making people treat this seriously is important, but lying about deaths such as this young girls is dreadful. It also makes you look suspiciously at other stories that are out there at the moment of other people dying of the virus with (and this bit is always over egged) NO UNDERLYING HEALTH PROBLEMS. Clearly in the case of this girl SHE DID HAVE AN UNDERLYING HEALTH PROBLEM WITH HER HEART. How many more of these cases of people dying with no underlying health problems are untrue?


If they did lie about her heart and reason for passing away, definitely shame on them on all fronts. Inexcusable.

However, now that you brought up the issue of heart health, it is now being reported that many actual cases of heart attacks and heart problems are showing up with Covid-19 cases, and on those with no known heart issues at all. They just can't tell if the virus is the cause of the heart attack or damage or if it's the body's massive response to the virus that is doing so. Cardiologists are having to see if those coming in for heart problems have to be tested for Covid-19 and then also Covid-19 patients now are having to be monitored possibly DEVELOPING heart damage.

Man...what an evil and insidious disease this thing is.


TominAtl, your last sentence says it all. The fear of the unknown compounds the mystery about every symptom we learn of just about every hour. When I read about the cardiac issues that were being encountered and studied, I freaked a bit. A symptom of my son's disease is chronic pericarditis which, if kept in check won't damage the heart. However, it is sometimes asymptomatic and a bout not detected until it's full blown which causes the the pericardium membrane around the heart to toughen and restrict. I've also read that this virus hones in one an individual's health vulnerabilities (some congenital but non-life threatening) that were never even detected through their known medical history. I am even wary of sharing that bit of information with all the misinformation out there but this is a maze that we all have to navigate judiciously

Lastly and most frightening of all, we received an email and phone call yesterday that Covid 19 has been detected in a resident of the assisted living facility whether my 91 year old mom-in-law resides. The resident tested positive but is not showing any symptoms at the moment. She is in full isolation in her apartment and is being monitored by the facility and the state Department of Health. Fortunately, my mom-in-law is in a distant wing and all residents are restricted to their apartments. The facility of a wonderful place and the staff has been handling this pandemic with utmost care. They have a full medical staff and we are taking this a day at a time.

Folks, hang tough and keep your distance.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 11:28 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)






Stay the **** at home song. Funny but good message.
If you dont like swearing, dont click on it.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Speaking of people pissing each other off, I have an off topic inquiry. I wasn't posting for a couple weeks when I visited the board. I noticed that "Mr. Marshall" wasn't posting either. Assuming I'm not schizo (or I am and am "Mr Marshall"), did he get banned?

Hmm.....I just watched "Mr. Brooks" again recently - just occurred to me his murderous alter ego was named Marshall.....AAHHHHHH!!!!!!!


Last, I am not pissed off if you have me in mind. I am just weary as most of us are. This has been a tough week for so many of us. I'll bet we are all weary and worried. You're not schizo.


But there's also the new "US Marshals" release... talk about coincidences.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 8:22 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

We, as in where I work are now ordered to wear masks in our ALF. Except there aren't enough masks. We have to reuse our same mask everyday we come into work. roll eyes

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 9:02 PM   
 By:   TominAtl   (Member)






Stay the **** at home song. Funny but good message.
If you dont like swearing, dont click on it.


Love it, love it, love it.

Truly, it's the only stop this mess and that's to starve it.

So...stay the f'k at home!

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2020 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)






Stay the **** at home song. Funny but good message.
If you dont like swearing, dont click on it.


Love it, love it, love it.

Truly, it's the only stop this mess and that's to starve it.

So...stay the f'k at home!


If only Mary Poppins Returns had songs this good.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2020 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   KeV-McG   (Member)

I thought that was John Williams at the piano, when I first saw the clip embedded.

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2020 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I thought that was John Williams at the piano, when I first saw the clip embedded.

That would've made it even better! Imagine the always gentile Williams going off like that?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2020 - 5:33 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)


You would have thought that with everyone stuck at home and getting bored that condom usage would have, ahhem, 'risen'..... However the company Karex Bhd that makes one in five condoms has shut, due to the lockdown in Malaysia where they are made. There are fears that this condom shortage could lead to a spike in the birthrate. The alternative of course is to use the middle finger (for most men) from a rubber glove.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2020 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Damian   (Member)

You would have thought that with everyone stuck at home and getting bored that condom usage would have, ahhem, 'risen'..... However the company Karex Bhd that makes one in five condoms has shut, due to the lockdown in Malaysia where they are made. There are fears that this condom shortage could lead to a spike in the birthrate. The alternative of course is to use the middle finger (for most men) from a rubber glove.

The problem is that they aren't very good for making animal shapes.Trust me on that.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2020 - 8:14 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

I dont have any trouble with 2 metres distancing from girlfriend as my knob is 3 metres long!! Ha ha. big grin

Ok dont shoot me, its a joke a joke, put the pot back! wink

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2020 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Damian   (Member)

I dont have any trouble with 2 metres distancing from girlfriend as my knob is 3 metres long!! Ha ha. big grin

Ok dont shoot me, its a joke a joke, put the pot back! wink


And yet I heard your address book is full of unhappy women big grin

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2020 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Thats very true. Somebody grassed?!! Lol

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2020 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Damian   (Member)

Thats very true. Somebody grassed?!! Lol

Yeah it was my mum

 
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