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 Posted:   Mar 27, 2020 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


Hello All:

We are receiving a number of abuse reports due to this thread.

I have not been following it, and I don't have time to acquaint myself with it, sorry.

It would be a shame to have delete discussion of a public health matter.

Please refrain from taking this in political directions, and please be compassionate of the health concerns of others.

Or we'll zap the thread.

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2020 - 10:50 PM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

Today, I took my 500 mg capsule of vitamin C.

I am on my way to find an organic shop to get a 1 gram of vitamin C soon.
I read you can buy it through a powder form of L-Ascorbic Acid.
A MD asserts he takes up to 5 grams a day.
 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2020 - 10:59 PM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

Let's hear it from Dr. Berg


Vitamin C’s Immune Benefits
 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2020 - 11:25 PM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

Today, I took my 500 mg capsule of vitamin C.

I am on my way to find an organic shop to get a 1 gram of vitamin C soon.
I read you can buy it through a powder form of L-Ascorbic Acid.
A MD asserts he takes up to 5 grams a day.


https://solaray.co.uk/bio-plex-buffered-c-500mg/



https://solaray.co.uk/tstr-super-bio-buffered-vitamin-c-1000mg/
 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 12:03 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)



Okay Member, we get it.... Dose up on vitamin C. Please refrain from sticking adverts on here.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 12:10 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)

Hello All:

We are receiving a number of abuse reports due to this thread.

I have not been following it, and I don't have time to acquaint myself with it, sorry.

It would be a shame to have delete discussion of a public health matter.

Please refrain from taking this in political directions, and please be compassionate of the health concerns of others.

Or we'll zap the thread.

Lukas


Hi Lukas, it's a shame that some members have felt the need to complain about the politics in this thread. As myself and a couple of others have argued "We are not discussing politics but a subject, the very nature of which, will be framed by political decisions. I raised the point about a bunch of British politicians catching the virus. This had nothing to do with politics or political viewpoints but the irony of having our lives dictated to by a bunch of people who couldn't heed their own advice.

As I see it, the only problem with this thread at the moment are repeat adverts for vitamin c and other health tips from 'member' which I myself just reported to you

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 12:41 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)


And now onto serious matters...

An interesting story in the UK.

A 21 year old girl with no underlying health problems died of a heart attack this week. A tragedy, but nothing surprising - these things happen. What was interesting was that after her family claimed she had a cough the coroner listed the death as being due to Coronovirus. The hospital where she died say this was not the case. She did not test positive for Coronovirus.

Her family have been accused of lying and dramatising her death. But more interestingly the media have been accused of using her death and claiming it was due to the virus to push the current agenda in this country to try to scare younger people into staying at home and treating the virus seriously. Making people treat this seriously is important, but lying about deaths such as this young girls is dreadful. It also makes you look suspiciously at other stories that are out there at the moment of other people dying of the virus with (and this bit is always over egged) NO UNDERLYING HEALTH PROBLEMS. Clearly in the case of this girl SHE DID HAVE AN UNDERLYING HEALTH PROBLEM WITH HER HEART. How many more of these cases of people dying with no underlying health problems are untrue?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 1:48 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

After reading a highly interesting article (which went viral - nobody's safe from Internet bollox) on "The Internet", written by "an immunologist" at the John Hopkins University, I did a search for "Immunologist Coronavirus John Hopkins" and came across another highly interesting article from "another immunologist" saying that the first immunologist's article was full of false assumptions and distortion of facts.

I'm going to socially isolate from all news for a while. I'm sure it'll do wonders for my health.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 5:33 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

After reading a highly interesting article (which went viral - nobody's safe from Internet bollox) on "The Internet", written by "an immunologist" at the John Hopkins University, I did a search for "Immunologist Coronavirus John Hopkins" and came across another highly interesting article from "another immunologist" saying that the first immunologist's article was full of false assumptions and distortion of facts.

I'm going to socially isolate from all news for a while. I'm sure it'll do wonders for my health.

Graham, I showed your post to my daughter and she said she's not surprised. She told me that one of her Bio profs shared with the class that this happens often during world wide health crises and he nicknamed it "Battle of the Brains." We just have hope we are listening to the right brain I guess, or is it left brain?
 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Hi Lukas, it's a shame that some members have felt the need to complain about the politics in this thread.

The "report abuse" button only flags a post. There's no option to give an explanation, so you're assuming it's politics. Maybe it's all the damn vitamin posts that are getting flagged. With the exception of scurvy, Vitamin C probably doen't help any medical condition.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Italy has the second most infected after the US @ 86,498, a staging amount for sure and close to a 1000 dead which is tragic. But what shocks me is 99.9% of the cases are confined to Rome. Whereas the entire US is lighting up like a Christmas tree.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

The sad irony is that right now our weather could not be nicer, and it's driving me insane to not go out and do things.
You don't realize just HOW much your brain needs an hour of walking in the forest until it's forbidden to you.
But I'm no idiot. I know how fortunate I am to not be sick right now.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Italy has the second most infected after the US @ 86,498, a staging amount for sure and close to a 1000 dead which is tragic. But what shocks me is 99.9% of the cases are confined to Rome. Whereas the entire US is lighting up like a Christmas tree.

solium, you're usually so precise and scientific, so I don't know how to take your comment about the statistics for Italy. 99.9% of the cases are in Rome? Where did you get this info? Or is the satire too clever for my pea brain?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

The sad irony is that right now our weather could not be nicer, and it's driving me insane to not go out and do things.
You don't realize just HOW much your brain needs an hour of walking in the forest until it's forbidden to you.
But I'm no idiot. I know how fortunate I am to not be sick right now.

I can understand urban areas having a lockdown, but a nationwide lockdown seems excessive if you can easily avoid people. If you can jump on a bike or car and get to some woods, you're not going to catch anything from a tree except a rash or congestion if you're allergic.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I can understand urban areas having a lockdown, but a nationwide lockdown seems excessive if you can easily avoid people. If you can jump on a bike or car and get to some woods, you're not going to catch anything from a tree except a rash or congestion if you're allergic.


It's the getting there that would be the tricky part.
Plus the statistical certainty that no matter how much I think I can slip in under the radar, it's almost certain that a bunch more people had the exact same idea as me.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Italy has the second most infected after the US @ 86,498, a staging amount for sure and close to a 1000 dead which is tragic. But what shocks me is 99.9% of the cases are confined to Rome. Whereas the entire US is lighting up like a Christmas tree.

solium, you're usually so precise and scientific, so I don't know how to take your comment about the statistics for Italy. 99.9% of the cases are in Rome? Where did you get this info? Or is the satire too clever for my pea brain?

Not satire. I was basing it off of this map. If you zoom in it shows the majority of infected in Rome. If its in error I stand corrected.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)

Italy has the second most infected after the US @ 86,498, a staging amount for sure and close to a 1000 dead which is tragic. But what shocks me is 99.9% of the cases are confined to Rome. Whereas the entire US is lighting up like a Christmas tree.

solium, you're usually so precise and scientific, so I don't know how to take your comment about the statistics for Italy. 99.9% of the cases are in Rome? Where did you get this info? Or is the satire too clever for my pea brain?

Not satire. I was basing it off of this map. If you zoom in it shows the majority of infected in Rome. If its in error I stand corrected.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6


Sorry Solium but the figures are definitely wrong. For one thing the number of deaths are 9,000+ not 1000. Perhaps you meant to say 10,000?

Secondly the worst hit area is Lombardy, which contains the city of Milan, but not Rome, which is further south

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)

I can understand urban areas having a lockdown, but a nationwide lockdown seems excessive if you can easily avoid people. If you can jump on a bike or car and get to some woods, you're not going to catch anything from a tree except a rash or congestion if you're allergic.


It's the getting there that would be the tricky part.
Plus the statistical certainty that no matter how much I think I can slip in under the radar, it's almost certain that a bunch more people had the exact same idea as me.

Octoberman is right. We had that here in the UK last weekend with lots of people driving to the Peak District ( a beautiful area if countryside renown for its walks) to get their allowable bit of exercise for the day. Trouble was everyone had thr same idea, so there were lots of people in the same area. They were criticised for that and the police will be stopping this activity this weekend. I must say I find this a bit excessive. I'm lucky enough to live in the countryside and can step out of my door into a pear orchard in front of my house or woods to the back. However most people live in towns and cities and they step out into the street, so when thry step out for the daily walk thry are likely to be one of any people walking along the pavement, having to pass right by other people. So to stop people from walking in the countryside where they can easily pass around and avoid other walkers is illogical.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Secondly the worst hit area is Lombardy, which contains the city of Milan, but not Rome, which is further south

Looking at the map for Italy, there's a big red dot over Rome, a small dot over San Marino, nothing over Milan. Do those represent where cases are being hospitalized as opposed to place of origin?

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Secondly the worst hit area is Lombardy, which contains the city of Milan, but not Rome, which is further south

Looking at the map for Italy, there's a big red dot over Rome, a small dot over San Marino, nothing over Milan. Do those represent where cases are being hospitalized as opposed to place of origin?

Are there any official coronavirus maps made in Italy itself? That would clear this up.

 
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