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The 2nd Print Run of SIMIANS & SERIALISM book has Sold Out (many customers opting for the Book+CD combo). A 3rd Print Run of the book will be in stock soon. If you'd like to Reserve a copy of SIMIANS & SERIALISM, please drop me a request at info@pithikosentertainment.com. A heartfelt thank you to everyone who's purchased a copy!
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I am STILL happy with the FOX BOX tracks! brm Is that FOX BOX your mentioning the "Goldsmith at Fox" one. I'm so glad I didn't bother getting that. yes. why are you "happy" ?its a phenomenal collection! brm
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I am STILL happy with the FOX BOX tracks! brm Is that FOX BOX your mentioning the "Goldsmith at Fox" one. I'm so glad I didn't bother getting that. yes. why are you "happy" ?its a phenomenal collection! brm Yes, it was a great collection, just not the greatest sounding. Some things, like cues from SHOCK TREATMENT, were really bad. well SHOCK is really the only one you can point to and that's been reissued in good stereo sound!!!!!!!! brm
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Feb 20, 2016 - 8:30 PM
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RoryR
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I am STILL happy with the FOX BOX tracks! brm Is that FOX BOX your mentioning the "Goldsmith at Fox" one. I'm so glad I didn't bother getting that. yes. why are you "happy" ?its a phenomenal collection! brm Yes, it was a great collection, just not the greatest sounding. Some things, like cues from SHOCK TREATMENT, were really bad. well SHOCK is really the only one you can point to and that's been reissued in good stereo sound!!!!!!!! brm The Detective, Von Ryan's Express, Fate is the Hunter.... need it go on? The point is that in not spending the money on the BIG BOX, I was later able to spend it on CD editions of the complete scores, remastered and in stereo -- and that's what I really want, everything Goldsmith did at Fox, complete and sounding as good as it can. Is there a problem with that?
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Thanks for the response. I kind of wondered if that would be the case. It's not on the 4-CD set, which I have, and I've never encountered it on the compilations (many of which I have as well). No listing for it on the soundtrack collector site either, though I know that's not a guarantee that it's not somewhere. Maybe something released in England but not here in the USA? Anyway, thanks again for the response. It's on a Silva compilation titled Film Music by Jerry Goldsmith which is part of the Film Music Masterworks series. The track is titled Planet Of the Apes - The Search and the Hunt and runs 6:49. Here is the link on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GLL0V6 Bless you! I never paid any attention to that release, so thanks very much for pointing it out.
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Feb 23, 2016 - 7:40 AM
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KTK
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Now that I’ve listened to this recording a few times, back-to-back, I’ll submit an opinion here for what it’s worth. One paragraph of boring personal biography for perspective: I first heard the score to Planet of the Apes when I was 12 years old, the night it was first shown on TV. I grabbed the family monophonic cassette recorder, Scotch-taped the microphone to the TV speaker, and recorded the sound from the film onto two C-60’s, and played those endlessly over the next few years to re-live the film, memorizing the dialogue, in that decade preceding home video recorders. But along with the dialog was recorded the music… as someone who at that time thought that The Partridge Family was what music was, this particular score altered the course of my life. My friends and I over the next few years haunted record shops and library collections trying to find more music like this, and signed up for High School and then University music courses to learn more. Along the way we discovered and developed a love for the great works of 20th-century music that still endures, but always in the background: this sadness… we never quite found that holy grail of more music quite like THIS score. I am among those who think Goldsmith’s masterwork here discussed is one of the crowning achievements of composition, inside or outside of the film score universe. So having explained how important this work is to me personally, please understand that I am perfectly poised to despise anything that ‘dirties’ its memory in any way. Instead, I consider Mr. O’Callaghan’s loving and exacting presentation to be a masterpiece. I write this without reservation. I am in complete awe. I would truly like to shake his hand. There have been a few other attempts to perform extracts of this score orchestrally – Mark Snow’s rendition of ‘The Hunt’ comes to mind from the Fimucite 3 80th Birthday concert. The tempi are off just enough to make one cringe and cry “That’s not right!” and whole instrumental lines are simply missing. Mr. O’Callaghan’s performance may employ some electronic instruments, a fact which has caused some prejudicial controversy and bitterness here, but my God, this realization is so amazingly spot-on in every other way it is astounding. By the way, if you listen to the samples over little computer speakers, they may sound somewhat ‘electronic,’ but play this CD on a better system and it really sounds amazing. The music fills the stereo field very well and sounds much more ‘orchestral’ than it does over a cheap system. So many subtleties of the score are captured in amazing detail. I never expected this to be as good as it is. I’m frankly embarrassed to be running out of superlatives. The smallest bill that an ATM dispenses is a $20. That’s all Mr. O’Callaghan is asking in order to put a copy of his amazing achievement into your hands. (I loved his book so much I bought a second copy just to squirrel away in my fire safe.) Sir, now that you have your multitracks, if you ever decide to mount a Kickstarter to hire musicians to fill in spots here or there that you may not be completely happy with, I’d be first in line to support you. Not because I think it needs it, I just do not want your incredible journey with this music to end. I sincerely hope that you are not done.
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Great post KTK. I can't wait to receive my copy.
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Great post, MRS. O’Callaghan.
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No idea why either side in this feels any need to adopt a mocking or insulting tone. This project was clearly a labor of love from the foremost expert on this score (no one disputes the amazing quality of the book, Simians and Serialism). Some people feel that they can live with the fact that it employed synthetic means for the orchestra, others don't. That's fine! No need to fight about it. Yavar
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