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 Posted:   Feb 9, 2021 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

An expanded Flight of the Phoenix would be wonderful. I have a lot of nostalgia for this film and score. Will play it senza fine.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2021 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   Larry847   (Member)

An expanded Flight of the Phoenix would be wonderful. I have a lot of nostalgia for this film and score. Will play it senza fine.

Yes! Yes!

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2021 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

John Barry was nominated 6 times. Won 5.

7 times Peter. Don't forget Chaplin.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2021 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

John Barry was nominated 6 times. Won 5.

7 times Peter. Don't forget Chaplin.


Had some trouble with my adding......smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2021 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   panphoto   (Member)

Hiking to Landscape Arch, in Arches NP back in 1987, I stopped for some water and was approached by a middle-aged couple, he, a little scruffy under a frayed straw hat and sporting Ray-Bans and a generous if slightly scraggy beard. I invited them to share my rock. As soon as they came close I instantly recognised him and said, 'you're Heinrich Dorfmann!', before correcting myself with guffaws all round. 'Are you a film buff', he asked. 'No', I replied 'but Phoenix made a big impression on me aged 16'. He said that the movie was made in the dunes outside Yuma and working on it was a very special time for him. Hardy Kruger, his real name, is according to wikipedia a prolific writer and director of documentaries. He was a proper gentleman and his wife was charming too. I'm hoping the mystery CD is indeed what we are hoping it is....!

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2021 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   Bus_Punk   (Member)

Following on the heels of their excellent remastering of Rozsa's IVANHOE, I hope the upcoming release is a remastering of Herrmamn's JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS.

That would be a dream come true. As would Conan the Destroyer, which I’ve pretty much given up hoping for now.

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2021 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I think 'in-the-know' Yavar has confirmed this one.

When I’m actually “in the know” on an upcoming title, I keep my mouth shut. wink

This is just my educated guessing putting pieces together, and it wasn’t even my guess to begin with...if this is the correct title Sean Nethery deserves the credit for divination!

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2021 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I somehow had never seen or heard "The Flight of the Phoenix," but it sure fits: exciting credit sequence, great music, and Frank De Vol being a multiple Oscar nominee with no wins.

Never heard of it?
Surely you've seen the ST-Voy ep 'Rise', completely cribbed from 'Flight of the Phoenix'. Another truly great Tuvok/Neelix ep.


Lol, sort of an obscure reference. If you're talking about the plot (not the music), ST:OS "Galileo 7" is a better match.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2021 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

Never heard of it?

I've certainly heard of "The Flight of the Phoenix" but I never saw it or heard the score until watching/listening to the clips on this thread. I wasn't aware of the "Star Trek" episode(s?) that referenced it, however.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2021 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

The freeze-frames in the opening credits of Flight of the Phoenix (see above) were a blatant copy of the very popular (and much-lampooned by comedians) style of the Dr. Kildare TV titles of the time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cngAbboOQz8

I laughed aloud when seeing the Flight of the Phoenix titles for the first time, and half-expected one of the freeze-frames to show Richard Chamberlain in the plane. To call this "one of the most riveting and powerful opening credit sequences that ever set a movie in motion" would be too funny! Surely they must be talking of some other film? Surely?

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2021 - 7:21 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

I somehow had never seen or heard "The Flight of the Phoenix," but it sure fits: exciting credit sequence, great music, and Frank De Vol being a multiple Oscar nominee with no wins.

Never heard of it?
Surely you've seen the ST-Voy ep 'Rise', completely cribbed from 'Flight of the Phoenix'. Another truly great Tuvok/Neelix ep.


Lol, sort of an obscure reference. If you're talking about the plot (not the music), ST:OS "Galileo 7" is a better match.


What do you mean 'Galileo 7'?- 'Rise' even has Neelix say he used to build space elevators before admitting they were only model/toy space elevators.

Frank DeVol's FOTPh was already released. Is it incomplete?

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2021 - 7:51 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yes the FSM is incomplete. There was only so much room left on the disc and Flight of the Phoenix was the “filler” companion score for Patton, which FSM did release complete. I’m not sure how much music is missing but I’m sure Doug knows, whether or not Intrada’s release is this.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2021 - 8:57 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

glitch. sorry

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2021 - 9:01 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)



Did I Hiccup?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2021 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

"The main title cue is certainly one of the most riveting and powerful opening credit sequences that ever set a movie in motion."

This to me seems to be the crucial point in Doug's description. Especially given his love for 60's scores and De Vol having five Oscar nominations.

Which makes me immediately think of De Vol's "Flight of the Phoenix."


Here's the actual opening. Boy I wish the movie was as exciting as the main titles.


The FREEZE FRAME gets a tad old...like real fast.

Great GirlyMan scream though, when that one guy gets bonked on the head.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2021 - 2:43 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

As I mentioned earlier on.Titles that are being guessed and mentioned more than three times here on the forum are usually the ones ..so it MUST be FLIGHT OF THE PHOENIXsmile

 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2021 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Um that's FOTP

"It's Phoenix with a P not Fenix with an F

'Cause Phoenix with a P goes phhhht not fffft!"*




*Sung to "Liza with a Z"


I new that. big grin

 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2021 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

In Harm's Way is Doug's favorite Goldsmith score. I don't have any other insight than that; no idea if this is the release. But a multiple Oscar-nominee could also be an Oscar winner.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2021 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

"In Harm's Way" is a great Goldsmith score, but the movie doesn't have a main title sequence. It's one of the few Otto Preminger films that saves the credits for the end.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2021 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   Larry847   (Member)

Yes the FSM is incomplete. There was only so much room left on the disc and Flight of the Phoenix was the “filler” companion score for Patton, which FSM did release complete. I’m not sure how much music is missing but I’m sure Doug knows, whether or not Intrada’s release is this.

Yavar


Among the missing material from the first release they can recall off the top of my head: (spoilers ahead)

The sand storm sequence (a group of short cues leading up to the main title)
Cobb punches Harris (a sting type of cue that De Vol liked to do)
Townes' search for Cobb and the buzzards
The return of Harris
Townes finds Harris and the doctor
Several cues during various building sequences
A short cue when Dorfman rambles about the history of aviation
A short cue after they land at the end

I would say it's a minimum of 10 minutes, possibly longer. It's been a few years since last I watched it.

Larry

 
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