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 Posted:   Sep 8, 2019 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Hey Preston

To answer your question in order:

1. Yes. You missed something.
2. I know it's just one section. Not a suite.

Cheers!
Brm

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2019 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)


Hey Preston

To answer your question in order:

1. Yes. You missed something.
2. I know it's just one section. Not a suite.

Cheers!
Brm

***

To answer your answers in the same order:

1. Okay, I give up. I looked, to no avail. Was what I missed in a different thread?

2. Since you knew it wasn't a suite, any particular reason why you called it a suite?

Thnx,

PNJ

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2019 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Hey Preston

To answer your question in order:

1. Yes. You missed something.
2. I know it's just one section. Not a suite.

Cheers!
Brm

***

To answer your answers in the same order:

1. Okay, I give up. I looked, to no avail. Was what I missed in a different thread?

2. Since you knew it wasn't a suite, any particular reason why you called it a suite?

Thnx,

PNJ


I have a ' suite' tooth.
smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2019 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

I hope you didn't expect a serious answer from Mr. Marshall aka Mr. Smug.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2019 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I hope this release includes the music for the legendary deleted scenes: a burlesque number when the Bride does a striptease, and a sexy sax track when they consummate their marriage.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2019 - 5:32 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

I realize you’re joking, Last Child, but it does bring up the question of whether or not any of the 15 minutes approx. of deleted footage were ever scored by Waxman.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2019 - 7:28 PM   
 By:   waxmanman35   (Member)

I realize you’re joking, Last Child, but it does bring up the question of whether or not any of the 15 minutes approx. of deleted footage were ever scored by Waxman.

Most of the reduced running time, and accompanying music, consisted of trims. For example, the "Prologue" ran two minutes longer than what is in the film. "In the Tower" was dialed out and only 23 seconds is in the film; the complete cue ran 2:26. Many other cues suffered truncation as well. The only cue that was presumably recorded but not heard at any length was a very brief "priest theme," when the old baron's death is announced.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2019 - 8:01 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

"Hey Preston

To answer your question in order:

1. Yes. You missed something.
2. I know it's just one section. Not a suite.

Cheers!
Brm

***

To answer your answers in the same order:

1. Okay, I give up. I looked, to no avail. Was what I missed in a different thread?

2. Since you knew it wasn't a suite, any particular reason why you called it a suite?

Thnx,

PNJ

I have a ' suite' tooth.
smile

***

Oh, I get it, I'm not supposed to try and make sense of any of your posts. Thanks, I'll remember next time.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2019 - 8:21 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

"Hey Preston

To answer your question in order:

1. Yes. You missed something.
2. I know it's just one section. Not a suite.

Cheers!
Brm

***

To answer your answers in the same order:

1. Okay, I give up. I looked, to no avail. Was what I missed in a different thread?

2. Since you knew it wasn't a suite, any particular reason why you called it a suite?

Thnx,

PNJ

I have a ' suite' tooth.
smile

***

Oh, I get it, I'm not supposed to try and make sense of any of your posts. Thanks, I'll remember next time.[/

When will good intelligent people realize that Mr. Marshall is not to be taken seriously. He is on this board strictly to be the resident clown. He knows absolutely nothing about film music. He says he puts out a film music newspaper. Without see it , it probably has a value inside on the floor of a birdcage. Mr. Marshall is here to incite; not to give insight.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2019 - 12:02 AM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

The is quite a fabulous early landmark score from a major top-tier film composer. I have my ticket ordered and look forward to meeting up with all of you FSM Message Board folks and Mike Mattessino and John Waxman at the showing.

I'm a bit confused about just how much music will be on the CD. Just how long was the full score?
The announcement doesn't give enough details about the actual CD yet.
The film is only 75 minutes long. How long will the new release be?

I have a private CDR of the score from a German friend from years ago with 11 untitled cues (51:33).
.....Now that's 69% of the film running time
.....But to listen to it - it seems either padded in the middle and/or incomplete at the end.
The Silva Screen release (1993) has 12 cues (40:37).
The Sound Track Factory release (1999) (terrible sound) has 13 cues (47:17).
But the last cue is a 12:57 "Suite Bonus Track." So the score part is only 34:20.

Makes me want to "spot" the film to get an accurate time of "what there might be to have."
But that would diminish seeing the film "fresh" in Tarrytown.

Thoughts, anyone?

Ron Burbella



 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2019 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

When will good intelligent people realize that Mr. Marshall is not to be taken seriously. He is on this board strictly to be the resident clown. He knows absolutely nothing about film music... Mr. Marshall is here to incite; not to give insight

***

Well, in my case, the obvious answer to your rhetorical question is, "Now."

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2019 - 1:16 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I'll buy a CD of Waxman's classic BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN in ANY sound quality! smile


But if it's not in stereo, forget it! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2019 - 4:25 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

When will good intelligent people realize that Mr. Marshall is not to be taken seriously. He is on this board strictly to be the resident clown. He knows absolutely nothing about film music... Mr. Marshall is here to incite; not to give insight.

Maybe that's why I think of him as "Mr. Marcel" as in Marcel Marceau. Except he can't keep quiet.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2019 - 4:45 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

I have a private CDR of the score from a German friend from years ago with 11 untitled cues (51:33).
.....Now that's 69% of the film running time
.....But to listen to it - it seems either padded in the middle and/or incomplete at the end.

Are you sure that all those 11 untitled cues are from BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN?
It could be that I probably have the same CDR with 11 tracks and with the same duration, but only the first 8 tracks (about 31 minutes) on my copy are really from BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN. Track 9 is in fact from LILIOM (3:37 minutes), track 10 from FURY (7:21 minutes) and track 11 from THE INVISIBLE RAY (9:43 minutes). This CDR has been circulating among collectors here in Europe for more than 10 years now and the source for it were certainly the acetates in the Waxman estate.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2019 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

As a side-note on this, here is the main title to THE BLACK DOLL, Universal's 1938 Crime Club mystery, which uses either an alternate BRIDE opening or a patchwork version. As you'll hear, the "hut fire" music appears where normally would the "Pretorius' miniatures" music.

http://www.chelsearialtostudios.com/black_doll.mp3

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2019 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Thank you for that tidbit. This is serious lifelong film music. Can even hear the miniature's cue at its mere suggestion.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2019 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   waxmanman35   (Member)

I'm a bit confused about just how much music will be on the CD. Just how long was the full score?Ron Burbella

There's approximately 45 minutes of music in the film, not including the "Ave Maria" cues and the brief bits that were tracked from other recorded stems. Approximate 6 minutes of music that was recorded was trimmed from the final release. As I wrote earlier, only one very brief cue was eliminated entirely; the other music was truncated when scenes were shortened. In addition, the main title in "Black Doll" that Ray posted is incomplete - about 6-8 seconds was cut before the agitato section.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2019 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I'm a bit confused about just how much music will be on the CD. Just how long was the full score?Ron Burbella

There's approximately 45 minutes of music in the film, not including the "Ave Maria" cues and the brief bits that were tracked from other recorded stems. Approximate 6 minutes of music that was recorded was trimmed from the final release. As I wrote earlier, only one very brief cue was eliminated entirely; the other music was truncated when scenes were shortened. In addition, the main title in "Black Doll" that Ray posted is incomplete - about 6-8 seconds was cut before the agitato section.


Why should we trust you?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2019 - 8:05 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I realise now that I'll be ordering this as soon as it's out. I know this because a) it's one of my favourite scores of all time, and b) because I've just had the same experience on the Tadlow Dracula/ Curse of Frankenstein cd.

There are just some things we cannot resist.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2019 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

I realise now that I'll be ordering this as soon as it's out. I know this because a) it's one of my favourite scores of all time, and b) because I've just had the same experience on the Tadlow Dracula/ Curse of Frankenstein cd.

There are just some things we cannot resist.


I'm glad you made that reference to Tadlow. I didn't even know the album was available for purchase yet!! Just ordered! Thanks!

 
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