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 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

...and by the way..even Goldsmith said in interviews..He didn’t “Get It” about Star Trek Films.

I guess he went decades not knowing what a Klingon is smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I think that since the bulk of the 2nd half of the movie is devoted to the Vejur thematic material, a condensed album of highlights is better able to capture the gist of it.

That Vejur material that you'd like condensed is my favorite part of the score!

(But I love all of it.)

(But if you prefer TFF, enjoy! But I will sit here grumbling.)

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

TMP is filled with a variety of themes that stand out.

And that also describes TFF.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I think that since the bulk of the 2nd half of the movie is devoted to the Vejur thematic material, a condensed album of highlights is better able to capture the gist of it.

But I will sit here grumbling.)


"kvetching" is more like it.
smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 4:43 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I think that since the bulk of the 2nd half of the movie is devoted to the Vejur thematic material, a condensed album of highlights is better able to capture the gist of it.

That Vejur material that you'd like condensed is my favorite part of the score!

(But I love all of it.)

(But if you prefer TFF, enjoy! But I will sit here grumbling.)


I can never choose between the two! I certainly didn't mean to cast aspersions on the Vejur thematic material from TMP, it's so evocative and compelling. Just that if you're forced to make a 40 minute album of highlights, from 100+ minute score, there are some choice highlights from that part of TMP's score.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

TMP is filled with a variety of themes that stand out.

And that also describes TFF.


Thank you! Quite so.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 4:55 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

TMP is filled with a variety of themes that stand out.

And that also describes TFF.


Thank you! Quite so.

Yavar


You're free to love TFF, but subjectively not even close. There's no comparison as far as complexly and variety between the two scores.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

You're free to love TFF, but subjectively not even close.

Indeed. wink

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

You're free to love TFF, but subjectively not even close.

Indeed. wink

Yavar


Damn it, I meant objectively. You get the last laugh though.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

There's no better for me. Both are spectacular in their own way.

I don´t even get the necessity of determining what is better.

This is not like sports where the winning team is the better one. This is art. And therefore subjective in itself.

Love both scores instead. They are surely deserving of it.


It's just innocuous fun.


Or just a dumb thread big grin!

So in a way TFF felt more like what I was hoping to get out of the whole Star Trek movie experience.

Right. We've both been at this place for so long, JB. Forget about the music for a second; you know that I know that you know that I know your precise sentiment here has been expressed eons ago within the context of the entire film series, as in take out the abominable lame humor and Numero Cinco becomes a wonderful return-to-its-roots production, JG's score serving as a marvelous complement to the film unto itself AND to the overarching essence of the entire ST zeitgeist.

Verdad? Are we connecting, Mr. Kersey??

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 6:59 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I just never could warm to Jerry's ST Theme.
And there is alot of it in TMP.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 7:01 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

You're free to love TFF, but subjectively not even close.

Indeed. wink

Yavar


Damn it, I meant objectively. You get the last laugh though.


The Solium Mistake

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I just never could warm to Jerry's ST Theme.
And there is alot of it in TMP.


This could definitely be a problem with any score. I so love Rozsa's music, but the theme and general score didn't do much for me (the movie wasn't exactly Shadow of a Doubt, or Vertigo, but excellent imo).

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 7:13 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

For what it's worth I only like Goldsmith's score for TMP. I actually find his scores in the franchise dull and uninvolving.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 7:28 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

For the record, adjusted for inflation ST:TMP was the second highest grossing Star Trek film. (Including the JJ films)

The Solium Calculation

Lol. I just can't stop myself!

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 7:37 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

For the record, adjusted for inflation ST:TMP was the second highest grossing Star Trek film. (Including the JJ films)

The Solium Calculation

Lol. I just can't stop myself!


Entertaining you is my goal in life.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 7:46 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Posted By: Mr. Marshall:
I just never could warm to Jerry's ST Theme.
And there is alot of it in TMP.


For once we agree on something.
A bad TOS television score is better than a good feature film score any day. wink

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 7:50 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I just never could warm to Jerry's ST Theme.
And there is alot of it in TMP.


Same with Williams's RAIDERS Theme.
In both cases i prefer the music in the later films in the series because there is less reliance on the original theme.
Brm

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 7:51 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Posted By: Mr. Marshall:
I just never could warm to Jerry's ST Theme.
And there is alot of it in TMP.


For once we agree on something.
A bad TOS television score is better than a good feature film score any day. wink


Who said dat?

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2018 - 7:54 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

For the record, adjusted for inflation ST:TMP was the second highest grossing Star Trek film. (Including the JJ films)

The Solium Calculation

Lol. I just can't stop myself!


Entertaining you is my goal in life.


And my goal is to document your every utterance.

 
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