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 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 4:00 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

JB Hi-Fi in Australia recently announced that they're no longer shipping to the UK.

I ordered the DC of Rambo: Last Blood on BD from them a few months ago. They're a solid seller.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 4:25 AM   
 By:   George Flaxman   (Member)

JB Hi-Fi in Australia recently announced that they're no longer shipping to the UK.

I ordered the DC of Rambo: Last Blood on BD from them a few months ago. They're a solid seller.


Yeah, back in the even earlier days of January 2021 Iain Duncan-Smith an infamous Brexiteer issued this statement...

“I just wish I was 21 again, frankly, Because my goodness what prospects lie ahead of us for young people now. To be out there buccaneering, trading, dominating the world again...”

But how does this fit with the idea of free-trade ?. It seems like we are entering an era of domestic trade only. Mr Duncan-Smith's words sound very much like empire-building to me; and empires require subjects.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 4:58 AM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)

JB Hi-Fi in Australia recently announced that they're no longer shipping to the UK.

I ordered the DC of Rambo: Last Blood on BD from them a few months ago. They're a solid seller.


Yeah, back in the even earlier days of January 2021 Iain Duncan-Smith an infamous Brexiteer issued this statement...

“I just wish I was 21 again, frankly, Because my goodness what prospects lie ahead of us for young people now. To be out there buccaneering, trading, dominating the world again...”

But how does this fit with the idea of free-trade ?. It seems like we are entering an era of domestic trade only. Mr Duncan-Smith's words sound very much like empire-building to me; and empires require subjects.


Once again though, this isn't a UK initiative, it's a European law designed as a protectionist measure. It's just one we decided to implement and have implemented it earlier than the Europe has.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 5:14 AM   
 By:   George Flaxman   (Member)

I remember back in the 60s and early 70s that when I asked in a shop why LP Imports of titles were so much more expensive than the UK pressings I was either told that the Import was of a higher quality or that there needed to be a way to protect the sale of domestic titles.

That sounded reasonable then, but most titles in the soundtrack sector are only pressed in one country so there is no domestic product to protect unless you subscribe to the viewpoint that all titles are the same really.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   JC   (Member)

That sounded reasonable then, but most titles in the soundtrack sector are only pressed in one country so there is no domestic product to protect unless you subscribe to the viewpoint that all titles are the same really.

The politicians designed the new law to protect European sellers and postal services against Chinese sellers (and probably to gather data on merchandise flows). They didn't have the rather irrelevant soundtrack industry in mind.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

JB Hi-Fi in Australia recently announced that they're no longer shipping to the UK.

I ordered the DC of Rambo: Last Blood on BD from them a few months ago. They're a solid seller.


Yeah, I used them for a few Blu-rays & they were fine, but then they had a glitch on their site that meant they couldn't accept foreign post (zip) codes (so I couldn't order), & they seemed to be in no rush to fix it. I don't know if they ever did, as there was a post from someone in the US on another site the other week, saying he couldn't order for that reason. I did get the impression that they're not that bothered about international sales. I wanted an Aussie Blu-ray that's released this month, so I bought it from an eBay seller that I've used before, around the same price & posted from England, there's always different ways of buying things.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 5:30 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

. He is considering only taking orders that total GBP135 so that the customer is responsible for collecting the tax..

How does that even work, Are you actually supposed to keep track of what you're supposed to pay in sales tax when you file your taxes just because you happened to buy something expensive from out of country? That seems very strange, especially in 2021 on the Internet.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 5:33 AM   
 By:   JC   (Member)

. He is considering only taking orders that total GBP135 so that the customer is responsible for collecting the tax..

How does that even work, Are you actually supposed to keep track of what you're supposed to pay in sales tax when you file your taxes just because you happened to buy something expensive from out of country? That seems very strange, especially in 2021 on the Internet.


No, you have to pay VAT + customs duty + postal import fee upon receipt.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 5:51 AM   
 By:   dtw   (Member)

All this talk of orders over £135 (plus all the extra ££s I'd have to pay in VAT ect) is pie in the sky for me. I'm never ever going to do an order like that, esp. when all I want is a CD or Blu-ray. The biggest order I've ever done is to LLL for their Lethal Weapon box set, & I think that was around £80. There's nothing I want right now from these retailers, so let's see what happens.

^ this.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

I'm sure most of us here aren't exactly rolling in money. I buy a reasonable amount of cds from all over the world just now but my orders aren't £135! That's crazy for your average soundtrack fan that just buys a few cds as they are released.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

I keep my wish list in my SAE account up to date with CDs I'm likely to want. So far I've not managed to reduce it to zero, there's always a few CDs in there that I can add to a specific release to help get the figure up to GBP 135. However, I'd prefer not to have to work that way, especially as my income is down due to reduced hours while this Covid pandemic is still a major problem.

Elsewise, does the GBP 135 include the postage?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 8:49 AM   
 By:   Damian   (Member)

So I order (from intrada,lala etc, to UK) 5 CDs + postage= $125.Not usually hit with customs.nwhat do I expect to happen . You read up on this stiff and your brain hurts. Customs paid at this end?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   George Flaxman   (Member)

I keep my wish list in my SAE account up to date with CDs I'm likely to want. So far I've not managed to reduce it to zero, there's always a few CDs in there that I can add to a specific release to help get the figure up to GBP 135. However, I'd prefer not to have to work that way, especially as my income is down due to reduced hours while this Covid pandemic is still a major problem.

Elsewise, does the GBP 135 include the postage?


How do you cope with the $50 per order extra charge to ship to UK on top of the shipping charge ?.

And No, the GBP135 excludes charges.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   George Flaxman   (Member)

So I order (from intrada,lala etc, to UK) 5 CDs + postage= $125.Not usually hit with customs.nwhat do I expect to happen . You read up on this stiff and your brain hurts. Customs paid at this end?

I expect you will also be subject to a handling charge by the UK Post Office of approx £8.50 per package.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Damian   (Member)

So I order (from intrada,lala etc, to UK) 5 CDs + postage= $125.Not usually hit with customs.nwhat do I expect to happen . You read up on this stiff and your brain hurts. Customs paid at this end?

I expect you will also be subject to a handling charge by the UK Post Office of approx £8.50 per package.


That's the one thing I'm aware of. It really annoys me being worded as ' collected on your behalf'.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   George Flaxman   (Member)

So I order (from intrada,lala etc, to UK) 5 CDs + postage= $125.Not usually hit with customs.nwhat do I expect to happen . You read up on this stiff and your brain hurts. Customs paid at this end?

I expect you will also be subject to a handling charge by the UK Post Office of approx £8.50 per package.


That's the one thing I'm aware of. It really annoys me being worded as ' collected on your behalf'.


Yeah there are lots of things that annoy me, and handling charges are one of them.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

I expect you will also be subject to a handling charge by the UK Post Office of approx £8.50 per package.
That's the one thing I'm aware of. It really annoys me being worded as ' collected on your behalf'.


It used to be the case that the handling charge was only applied if the package was opened for any reason (to check for illegal substances, or to check the contents if the declared value didn't ring true) which was kind of fair. But now it's charged simply for moving the package from one trolley to another so that duty and VAT can be applied. Which is ridiculous.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   JC   (Member)

But now it's charged simply for moving the package from one trolley to another so that duty and VAT can be applied. Which is ridiculous.

As far as I know the postal service or the courier service pays the taxes in advance and does the paperwork so that you don't have to visit the responsible customs office. Courier services often charge more than 20EUR for the task.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

But now it's charged simply for moving the package from one trolley to another so that duty and VAT can be applied. Which is ridiculous.

As far as I know the postal service or the courier service pays the taxes in advance and does the paperwork so that you don't have to visit the responsible customs office. Courier services often charge more than 20EUR for the task.


Good point. Yes, Royal Mail pay the amount due to HM Revenue and Customs and then send a ‘fee to pay’ card to the addressee.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2021 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   George Flaxman   (Member)

But now it's charged simply for moving the package from one trolley to another so that duty and VAT can be applied. Which is ridiculous.

As far as I know the postal service or the courier service pays the taxes in advance and does the paperwork so that you don't have to visit the responsible customs office. Courier services often charge more than 20EUR for the task.


Good point. Yes, Royal Mail pay the amount due to HM Revenue and Customs and then send a ‘fee to pay’ card to the addressee.


I remember a couple of years ago bank charges of £15 for a bounced cheque, were attacked as being nothing like the true cost which was maybe £1 for an electronic charge. Trouble is there is no way to complain, and if you don't pay then the package goes back to sender. I've never objected to the customs charge, but the handling charge is usually more. It's like being charged at a supermarket for using the cash register and taking a payment.

 
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