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 Posted:   May 17, 2017 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2017 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The score is pure Jerry Goldsmith, but the main theme for The List of Adrian Messenger certainly sounds to me like it was inspired in part by the Kurt Weill cabaret-for-orchestra idiom.

Goldsmith - The List of Adrian Messenger


It sounds definitively like Jerry from the first note--he was such a fookin modernist-- but then the Brecht sound kicks in. Love it. I also hear in the opening strains what sounds like the Wild, Wild World of Animals theme! I excel at superficial associations, sir. I'm off to hear the Bowie now.



Thanks to Bob DiMucci for his contributions, as well.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2017 - 9:17 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

Bea Arthur's song in 'The Star Wars Christmas Special' is quite Weill-ish.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2017 - 7:01 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

And speaking of covers of Brecht (but not Weill), there's always Bowie's recording of Baal

Not a big David Bowie fan (though I admire and respect his ambition and huge influence on countless other artists) but I enjoyed this quite a bit. Bowie was an artist in the best sense of the word.

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2017 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   TonyJ   (Member)

Look no further than Jerry Goldsmith's Studs Lonigan - you will not believe your ears.

Wow! Just listened to it for the first time in years. Sounds like an homage to The Threepenny Opera.

 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2020 - 6:48 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The score is pure Jerry Goldsmith, but the main theme for The List of Adrian Messenger certainly sounds to me like it was inspired in part by the Kurt Weill cabaret-for-orchestra idiom.

Goldsmith - The List of Adrian Messenger



"Music to Read Neue Sachlichkeit Art Books By"!

 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2020 - 6:55 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'm looking for film scores that evoke the Threepenny Opera sound and the era of the Weimar Republic. I'd also welcome non-film score suggestions outside of the proper Brecht-Weill works.

Jim, you'd do very well to hear Brecht-Weill's "Surabaya Johnny" from the indifferently-received musical "Happy End". This version by Ute Lemper is actually far better, IMO, than Lotte Lenya (who was married to Brecht). This song and this version of it will knock your sox off - it did mine! I ADORE IT and it always brings me to my knees:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxz81DtK_9k


I went back and listened to the performance linked above, enjoyed it, and then proceeded to listen to Ute Lemper's other takes on the song: She never does it quite the same way twice, and each different rendition is wonderful in its own way. What a performer!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2020 - 7:42 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I've mentioned this score on another thread, but jazz composer/arranger Carla Bley (who beautifully interpreted Weill's Lost in the Stars on the Hal Wilner-produced Kurt Weill album, Lost in the Stars) scored a French movie in 1983 called Mortelle Randonnee, only released on a Mercury lp in France. Weill's influence permeates much of her earlier work. P.S. Her pianist on the album is the young Arturo O'Farrill, son of Chico and future composer/band leader.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2020 - 7:42 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I believe the entire album is on Youtube.

 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2020 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Not a film score, but I'd be pleased to know of music outside the film score realm that would have that Brecht-Weill sound.

Does "Fables of Faubus" by FSM favorite Charles Mingus qualify?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2020 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   Nono   (Member)

L'Idée by Arthur Honegger.

As Adriano wrote in the notes for the Marco Polo recording :

More than any other film score by the composer, this contains typical devices of the film and theatre music of the 1920s and 1930s, making it sound at times like Hindemith or Kurt Weill. The “Idea” itself, its lyrical leitmotif stated and developed at the beginning by a solo of 39 bars for Ondes Martenot, is represented by the silhouette of an immortal, naked girl, inspiring mankind and leading revolt against all kinds of oppression.

The Marco Polo recording isn't available on YouTube, but there's another one :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WonPDF30tPQ

I already said it in other threads, but it's really a great film score.

- Bruno

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 7:02 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Nono:

Thanks for taking the time to write down those notes (it doesn't seem to be something readily online).

I'm listening to the score now and it makes for some enjoyable Sunday-morning listening.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Not a film score, but I'd be pleased to know of music outside the film score realm that wouod have that Brecht-Weill sound.

Does "Fables of Faubus" by FSM favorite Charles Mingus qualify?



ABSOLUTELY!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

This is as good a place as any to post "Surabaya Johnny" by Thee Great Combustible Edison!

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

"Surabaya Johnny" must be the "Caravan" or "Stardust" of German cabaret-style songs.

Great song.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I have very mixed feelings about Elvis Costello's songwriting, for reasons that I will not go into here.

That said, I ADORE this track from his album "Trust:" "Shot with His Own Gun," which I'm sure was intended as a Brecht-Weill homage. Great piano playing by Steve Nieve.

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2020 - 3:31 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

"Shot with His Own Gun" is one of the better vocal performances I've heard from Elvis Costello, but then I'm not a fan.

The piano sounds more like an Italian Western/bordello piano, which put me off at first, but the performance by Costello and pianist Steve Nieve persevered and "won me over", so to speak.

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2020 - 4:49 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The music in Woody Allen's Shadows and Fog sounds strangely Weillian... wink

Not just "strangely Weillian", but "Weillian Weillian"!


THE CANNON SONG FROM LITTLE THREEPENNY MUSIC
By Kurt Weill
Performed by Canadian Chamber Ensemble
Conducted by Raffi Armenian

THE CANNON SONG FROM LITTLE THREEPENNY MUSIC
By Kurt Weill
Performed by The London Sinfonietta
Conducted by David Atherton

WHEN DAY IS DONE
By Robert Katscher and Buddy G. DeSylva
Performed by The Jack Hylton Orchestra

JA, JA DIE FRAU'N SIND MEINE SCHWACHE SEITE
By K. Schwebach and A. Egen
Performed by The Jack Hylton Orchestra

PROLOGUE FROM THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS
Music by Kurt Weill
Text by Bertolt Brecht
Orchestra conducted by Wilhelm Brueckner-Rueggeberg

ALABAMA SONG
By Kurt Weill and Bertolt Brecht
Performed by Marek Weber and His Orchestra

MORITAT FROM THE THREE PENNY OPERA
By Kurt Weill and Bertolt Brecht
Performed by Berlin Staatsoper
Conducted by Otto Klemperer

WHEN THE WHITE LILACS BLOOM AGAIN
By Franz Doelle and Fritz Rotter
Performed by The Jack Hylton Orchestra

http://www.woodyallenmovies.com/movies/shadowsandfogsoundtrack.php

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2020 - 6:35 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The irony of this thread is that not a single German FSMer has chimed in here. I thought this place was lousy with Germans!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2020 - 7:47 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

"Shot with His Own Gun" is one of the better vocal performances I've heard from Elvis Costello, but then I'm not a fan.

The piano sounds more like an Italian Western/bordello piano, which put me off at first, but the performance by Costello and pianist Steve Nieve persevered and "won me over", so to speak.


I think that what you are picking up from the piano has more to do with the bright, brittle, tinny tone of the piano - a sound that I personally do not like, but one that Elton John made millions off of.

That same piano part played on a warmer-sounding grand piano would have a much different effect.

 
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