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 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'm looking for film scores that evoke the Threepenny Opera sound and the era of the Weimar Republic. I'd also welcome non-film score suggestions outside of the proper Brecht-Weill works.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

An "outside of film scores" recommendation is certainly Robert Kurka's opera "The Good Soldier Schweijk".

Hans Eisler, Paul Dessau and Paul Hindemith composed works in the "neue Sachlichkeit" with jazz elements that Weill worked in, also Erwin Schulhoff. But I'm not aware of film scores in this mould, except "Kuhle Wampe", by Eisler, of which there is an orchestral suite.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 9:33 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Danny Elfman's THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS -- and the unreleased musicals JIMMY CALLICUT and LITTLE DEMONS!

In fact, many of Elfman's early Mystic Knights of the Oingo Boingo songs are in this vein.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

That's not the same style as Weill.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

A lot of NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS is Weill-inspired. Heck, even Elfman himself has said as much. If not directly, then definitely in many elements. "Sally's Song", for example. Then there's other material that is more in Cab Calloway territory, like "Oogie Boogie Song".

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   The Beach Bum   (Member)

Goldsmith's Studs Lonnigan is very Weill-esque, as is Bernstein's Ghostbusters theme. Rachel Portman's Benny & Joon too.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Have you ever seen Joseph Losey's GALILEO? - with its Brechtian approach by Hanns Eisler originally written for the stage version (which Losey himself had directed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=K4LT5IaRhv8

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 10:57 PM   
 By:   Regie   (Member)

I'm looking for film scores that evoke the Threepenny Opera sound and the era of the Weimar Republic. I'd also welcome non-film score suggestions outside of the proper Brecht-Weill works.

Jim, you'd do very well to hear Brecht-Weill's "Surabaya Johnny" from the indifferently-received musical "Happy End". This version by Ute Lemper is actually far better, IMO, than Lotte Lenya (who was married to Brecht). This song and this version of it will knock your sox off - it did mine! I ADORE IT and it always brings me to my knees:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxz81DtK_9k

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 12:12 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Look no further than Jerry Goldsmith's Studs Lonigan - you will not believe your ears.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 7:06 AM   
 By:   KOP   (Member)

Jim, you'd do very well to hear Brecht-Weill's "Surabaya Johnny" from the indifferently-received musical "Happy End". This version by Ute Lemper is actually far better, IMO, than Lotte Lenya (who was married to Brecht). This song and this version of it will knock your sox off - it did mine! I ADORE IT and it always brings me to my knees:

Lotte Lenya was actually married to Kurt Weill - twice.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   The Beach Bum   (Member)

Look no further than Jerry Goldsmith's Studs Lonigan - you will not believe your ears.

I just said that, three posts above.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   bigbearla   (Member)

Parts of Ken Thorne's score for Richard Lester's "The Bedsitting Room" are very much in the vein of Weill and "Threepenny Opera". The soundtrack was released on a multi-CD set of Ken Thorne's scores from Prometheus and by Kritzerland with "Juggernaut" (copies still available on Amazon):

http://www.kritzerland.com/juggerbed.htm


Clips from the film can be seen on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AVBEwTIfDM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mARXEQ1X_vQ


 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 1:59 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Thanks one and all for your recommendations. I'm quite pleased that Goldsmith ventured into this territory as I've never seen "Studs Lonigan."

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Try the musical CABARET, both Broadway and Movie recordings.

That has that tinny, 3rd-rate band feel one finds in a lot of Brecht-Weill scores.

And also try "Aufstieg und Fall der Stadt Mahagonny," or "Rise and Fall of the City Mahagonny," an opera they wrote, with perhaps the most cynical song ever written: "Den Wie Mann Sich Bettet So Liegt Mann." Or, "Then As You Make Your Bed, So Will You Lie."

I used to sing that for auditions, with a deadpan facial expression.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   Regie   (Member)

I missed the point of the OP - that it was about Weill-Brecht INSPIRED scores. Apologies.

"Cabaret" is an interesting case, but the film doesn't quite work for me. It seems 'derivative' rather than original - in the sense that it's so Americanized in sentiment and values ("money makes the world go around"). I think it was the casting of Minnelli and York (he's really quite second rate as an actor). Berenson was quite charming and well cast, but the film lacked that ambivalent, cynical, hard edge that you got on "Kufurstendamm" in the heady days of Berlin's decadent period. Wiemar, if you like.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 7:06 PM   
 By:   sr-miller   (Member)

The music in Woody Allen's Shadows and Fog sounds strangely Weillian... wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2013 - 1:57 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The music in Woody Allen's Shadows and Fog sounds strangely Weillian... wink

I find that score to be entirely too derivative. wink (it's also the film I watched today that inspired this thread).

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2017 - 6:46 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

It's four years later. Anyone else have any Brecht-Weill soundalike score suggestions? Hell, at this late date I would even accept song collection suggestions. smile

Meanwhile, even The Doors covered Brecht-Weill:

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2017 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

The score is pure Jerry Goldsmith, but the main theme for The List of Adrian Messenger certainly sounds to me like it was inspired in part by the Kurt Weill cabaret-for-orchestra idiom.

Goldsmith - The List of Adrian Messenger


And speaking of covers of Brecht (but not Weill), there's always Bowie's recording of Baal

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2017 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

 
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