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 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 10:09 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Much of the music on the Decca Entarte series is just what you're looking for- Google it and you'll find the list of releases - it's a great series and I think I have most of them.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2020 - 6:50 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Much of the music on the Decca Entarte series is just what you're looking for- Google it and you'll find the list of releases - it's a great series and I think I have most of them.

Thanks. These look promising.

https://www.discogs.com/label/227727-Decca-Entartete-Musik

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2020 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

Though the setting and subject matter differ from B-W (post-revolutionary France as opposed to Germany), Peter Weiss' score and songs from MARAT/SADE (full title: The Persecution and Assassination of Jean-Paul Marat as Performed by the Inmates of the Asylum of Charenton Under the Direction of the Marquis de Sade) brings to mind the Brecht-Weill sound, for me anyway. The DVD of the 1967 filmed version of the stage play is a bit hard to find these days, and although there was an LP score release (still up on Amazon) I don't find a CD of the score listed anywhere. The music is the thing so I won't go into the play itself, but it's brilliant and profane and quite entertaining, and to my mind a close cousin to Brecht and Weill.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2020 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Though the setting and subject matter differ from B-W (post-revolutionary France as opposed to Germany), Peter Weiss' score and songs from MARAT/SADE (full title: The Persecution and Assassination of Jean-Paul Marat as Performed by the Inmates of the Asylum of Charenton Under the Direction of the Marquis de Sade) brings to mind the Brecht-Weill sound, for me anyway. The DVD of the 1967 filmed version of the stage play is a bit hard to find these days, and although there was an LP score release (still up on Amazon) I don't find a CD of the score listed anywhere. The music is the thing so I won't go into the play itself, but it's brilliant and profane and quite entertaining, and to my mind a close cousin to Brecht and Weill.

There are scenes on The 'Tube; I'll have a look. I am familiar with the famous painting of Marat, but being a sheltered sort, not this production. I appreciate the recommendation.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2020 - 3:28 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I mentioned Marat/Sade earlier in this thread. The composer is Richard Peaslee. Peter Weiss wrote the words. Here's the deal: While there never was a cd of the movie soundtrack lp, there is a cd (coupled with another Peaslee theatrical song score) of the songs as performed for the stage play. There never was a single lp of the songs from the stage play, but Caedmon issued an lp set of the entire play on 3 lps, as performed by the Royal Shakespeare Company. The Premier label extracted the songs from the complete play for their cd presentation. The performances from stage play to movie are virtually the same, and both are done by the RSC, though the Caedmon/Premier is much better recorded. Patrick Gowers leads the demented band that performs Peaslee's wonderful songs. Bottom line: get the cd if you can find it. The lp is good, too. These songs are amazing, both in and out of context. Quite chilling.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 3:47 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Much of the music on the Decca Entarte series is just what you're looking for- Google it and you'll find the list of releases - it's a great series and I think I have most of them.

https://www.discogs.com/label/227727-Decca-Entartete-Musik


I've been scouring YouTube for some of these to sample, and despite the language barrier (and in my case, the intelligence barrier) I've already stumbled upon a work which provides that Weimar/Brecht-Weilian vibe:

Kálmán: Die Herzogin von Chicago / Vorspiel - 1a: Charleston, Charleston tanzt man heut!



"The operetta mingles jazz elements and other contemporary dance music with musical elements traditionally associated with Viennese waltz-opera and anticipates such works as White Horse Inn and Paul Abraham's Victoria and Her Hussar. The score also incorporates traditions from Kálmán's native Hungary. The libretto has a relatively modern satirical edge and draws on the political Kabarett that was a feature of radical Vienna, Berlin and Munich at the time. The piece directly addresses the impact of America and its social revolution, with its commentary on current affairs as seen in the jazz scene in Chicago. The piece reveals much about early 20th century European culture and European intellectual attitudes toward Americans, and American culture. The setting and score call for 1920s flapper costumes, jazz and the Charleston."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Herzogin_von_Chicago

It ties in nicely with what I've read regarding the American cultural influence on Weimar Germany. It's exciting to have a "soundtrack" to accompany what I've been reading.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

I mentioned Marat/Sade earlier in this thread. The composer is Richard Peaslee. Peter Weiss wrote the words. Here's the deal: While there never was a cd of the movie soundtrack lp, there is a cd (coupled with another Peaslee theatrical song score) of the songs as performed for the stage play. There never was a single lp of the songs from the stage play, but Caedmon issued an lp set of the entire play on 3 lps, as performed by the Royal Shakespeare Company. The Premier label extracted the songs from the complete play for their cd presentation. The performances from stage play to movie are virtually the same, and both are done by the RSC, though the Caedmon/Premier is much better recorded. Patrick Gowers leads the demented band that performs Peaslee's wonderful songs. Bottom line: get the cd if you can find it. The lp is good, too. These songs are amazing, both in and out of context. Quite chilling.

Sorry I missed your earlier mention of Marat/Sade, and thanks much for clarifying all of that! I love the film and the music -- brilliant concept, brilliantly done -- and would love to have a good quality CD of the score and songs. (Seem like something that Kritzerland might want to tackle?) I was able to chase down a copy of the DVD. Incidentally, Judy Collins did an interesting 5+ minute medley of songs from Marat/Sade on her album entitled "In My Life" -- fine album all around (including a beautifully done cover of the title tune, one of the Beatles' most contemplative and moving compositions). Easier to find, and the medley gives a flavor of the Marat/Sade score.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Marat/Sade, the play, film, and music has made a lasting impression on me throughout the years. I've managed to see three local and/or college productions of it over the years but would really love to see a splashy production with the proper number of musicians. The film is incredibly well done. A few years ago I saw an excellent production of Threepenny Opera at Edison Theater/Washington University and when I looked in the orchestra pit and saw all the instruments, I wished the same theater company would do Marat/Sade.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The last place I would expect to find the Brecht-Weill influence is in a production set in revolution-era France!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 2, 2020 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   EricHG30   (Member)

The last place I would expect to find the Brecht-Weill influence is in a production set in revolution-era France!

Except, of course, Marat/Sade owes everything (well an awful lot) the epic theatre movement of Brecht.

 
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