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 Posted:   Mar 9, 2018 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

It's astonishing to me that two years later, LLL's He-Man set is still in stock.

This is because, I quote: sountrack fans want cd's, not lp's.


Not really following you. LLL's "He-Man" is a CD.

 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2018 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   DJS   (Member)


This is because, I quote: sountrack fans want cd's, not lp's.


Try "fans wants Transformers...not He Man". The fact that the Transformer LP sales beeyotch-slapped He-Man CD sales out of the universe is a fairly obvious clue to the fact. The TF fanbase is massive. He-Man can't come close.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2018 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   Neseri   (Member)

The Transformers fanbase is plagued by scalpers. That's why the records went so fast. Also why ThinkGeek limited sales to two per buyer.

 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2018 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

Maybe releasing all this music exclusively on Vinyl is the studio's way of restricting it's use? It's a lot harder to import than CDs, it's pretty much restricted to being played in a room and the quality will gradually get worse over time. It's terrible.

 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2018 - 5:27 PM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • Soundwave, Grimlock and Starscream variants, here we come.

    At this point, I'd settle for a Hot Rod variant if I could get it.

  • Maybe releasing all this music exclusively on Vinyl is the studio's way of restricting it's use? It's a lot harder to import than CDs, it's pretty much restricted to being played in a room and the quality will gradually get worse over time. It's terrible.

    There are LP players that have USB output capability. Nothing can stop progress!

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     Posted:   Mar 9, 2018 - 6:11 PM   
     By:   DJS   (Member)

    The Transformers fanbase is plagued by scalpers. That's why the records went so fast. Also why ThinkGeek limited sales to two per buyer.

    All fanbases have scalpers, including the film score fanbase. Don't blame TF fans. If you release something that falls ridiculously short of demand it's going to get exploited. Had LLL or Intrada released this score on CD and only produced 500 copies it'd be the same story and everyone would be throwing fruit at them. IMO blame falls upon those producing who either engineered the shortage on purpose, we're forced to limit the production run (Sony = clueless) or ignorantly and severely underestimated demand. My vote is engineered or forced limit...because if you're stupid enough to think that was enough LPs for tens of thousands of TF fans, you shouldn't even be in the music producing business.


     
     Posted:   Mar 9, 2018 - 8:24 PM   
     By:   solium   (Member)

    I honestly didn't know the Transformers fan base was that BIG! I mean I know the live action films make a trillion dollars, but I'm sure most people who see those films are not "classic" Transformers fans.

    Regarding these "limited" releases, saying something is limited to "X" amount of pressings then after a quick sell out says there maybe another production run (just slightly different), is a trend I find deceptive and underhanded.

     
     Posted:   Mar 9, 2018 - 9:41 PM   
     By:   DJS   (Member)

    I perform a service...and that service costs money!

     
     Posted:   Mar 10, 2018 - 12:20 AM   
     By:   litefoot   (Member)

    Bumblebee sold out overnight.

     
     
     Posted:   Mar 10, 2018 - 2:26 AM   
     By:   babbelballetje   (Member)

    It's astonishing to me that two years later, LLL's He-Man set is still in stock.

    This is because, I quote: sountrack fans want cd's, not lp's.


    Not really following you. LLL's "He-Man" is a CD.


    It was meant as a remark about all those people speaking for "everyone" , that all soundtrack fans want a cd only.

     
     
     Posted:   Mar 10, 2018 - 2:28 AM   
     By:   babbelballetje   (Member)


    This is because, I quote: sountrack fans want cd's, not lp's.


    Try "fans wants Transformers...not He Man". The fact that the Transformer LP sales beeyotch-slapped He-Man CD sales out of the universe is a fairly obvious clue to the fact. The TF fanbase is massive. He-Man can't come close.


    Good point, but I wonder how much this would have sold if it was a limited edition Lalaland cd.

     
     Posted:   Mar 10, 2018 - 5:15 AM   
     By:   tyuan   (Member)

    On cd I would have bought 100 copies for my Italian TV Themes Club. 100 copies only me (just like I've done with the great LLL MOTU cd).

     
     Posted:   Mar 10, 2018 - 10:37 AM   
     By:   La La Land Records   (Member)


    This is because, I quote: sountrack fans want cd's, not lp's.


    Try "fans wants Transformers...not He Man". The fact that the Transformer LP sales beeyotch-slapped He-Man CD sales out of the universe is a fairly obvious clue to the fact. The TF fanbase is massive. He-Man can't come close.


    Good point, but I wonder how much this would have sold if it was a limited edition Lalaland cd.


    Probably about 1000 units in the first 24 hrs.

    The limited edition cd market is dead because scalpers no longer participate in it. When Intrada stopped limiting their releases and FSM admitted to over printing scalpers bailed on the collectible aspect of LE cds and moved on.

    Around this same time, soundtrack LPs started to blossom. Mondo, the KING of collectibles, saw this and started to combine their LE poster mentality with the soundtrack LP market and it helped explode the "collectibility" of soundtrack lps -- combining new artwork, fancy looking lps and very limited runs that scalpers could snatch up and sell at high prices. Thus, you have fast sellouts -- like cds used to be -- for both Mondo and other soundtrack LP companies. You create a demand. You "put a gun to the head of the consumer" and you make them buy it now OR ELSE.

    One could argue another reason cds do not sell out as fast as they used to is due to reissues, but that doesn't gel because lps are reissued quite often and they too sell out quickly...because of scalpers.

    It's a catch 22 -- a label can either print enough for everyone and hope for a sell out after a few years, making its money back with hopefully some profit or go back to the old days of limited amounts being made thus bringing back the "collectibility" of said cds. Although, the damage is done so it's hard to say if this method of doing business will work again.

    MV

     
     Posted:   Mar 10, 2018 - 11:26 AM   
     By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • The limited edition cd market is dead because scalpers no longer participate in it. When Intrada stopped limiting their releases and FSM admitted to over printing scalpers bailed on the collectible aspect of LE cds and moved on.

    EXCELLENT!



    Sowwy, had to let that out. Though I refuse to believe that markets are dependent on the presence of scalpers. That's a bilious thought.

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     Posted:   Mar 10, 2018 - 11:55 AM   
     By:   johnbijl   (Member)

    Indeed excellent. The market was sick with fever then. There were awesome releases (remember the night when Alien got out?) but the needed hurry to get was not fun at all.

     
     Posted:   Mar 10, 2018 - 2:17 PM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    It occurred to me yesterday -- they're making more to meet the demand, after saying it was limited? This is the "Blade Runner 2049 Ltd. Ed. Soundtrack" thing starting all over again.

     
     Posted:   Mar 11, 2018 - 10:45 PM   
     By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • It occurred to me yesterday -- they're making more to meet the demand, after saying it was limited? This is the "Blade Runner 2049 Ltd. Ed. Soundtrack" thing starting all over again.

    I didn't mind it then, and I cherish the "wisdom" of this now! C'mon "Junkion #285 Edition"!

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     Posted:   Mar 13, 2018 - 8:44 AM   
     By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

    There is a review of the album up at tfw2005, link is below, they got an early copy for review apparently. I'm still waiting for my shipping notice from ETR, but apparently those who ordered from thinkgeek already have theirs.

    http://news.tfw2005.com/2018/03/12/transformers-g1-score-vinyl-hand-look-thoughts-360796

     
     
     Posted:   Mar 18, 2018 - 7:43 PM   
     By:   Neseri   (Member)

    TFW2005 review: "It is a curated selection. Why this was done, I don’t know. Was it on purpose, to wet our appetite for more? Is it all they had, and masters have been lost for the others?"

    OR, quite simply, it's due to storage space of the vinyl...

    "I’m a little bummed that versions of Cold Slither and the Dancitron disco music was not on this. Both are significant pieces worthy of a spin."

    One's from G.I. Joe and the other's from 80's Spider-Man. Cold Slither's gonna be on Joe release for sure, but the other one... legal timey whimey mumbly bumbly....

     
     Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 2:36 AM   
     By:   litefoot   (Member)

    TFW2005 review: "It is a curated selection. Why this was done, I don’t know. Was it on purpose, to wet our appetite for more? Is it all they had, and masters have been lost for the others?"

    OR, quite simply, it's due to storage space of the vinyl...

    "I’m a little bummed that versions of Cold Slither and the Dancitron disco music was not on this. Both are significant pieces worthy of a spin."

    One's from G.I. Joe and the other's from 80's Spider-Man. Cold Slither's gonna be on Joe release for sure, but the other one... legal timey whimey mumbly bumbly....


    I doubt 80s Spidey will show up. It's one of the Marvel productions under the control of Disney. Which also means only Disney or Intrada can release it.

    GI Joe, Jem, and further volumes of Transformers could yet be released as these Marvel Productions are under the control of Hasbro.

     
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