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 Posted:   May 19, 2011 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   ctblass   (Member)

Warner Bros. released an interesting press release this morning:

BURBANK, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Principal photography has begun on Warner Bros. Pictures’ and Legendary Pictures’ “The Dark Knight Rises,” the epic conclusion to filmmaker Christopher Nolan’s Batman trilogy.

Leading an all-star international cast, Oscar® winner Christian Bale (“The Fighter”) again plays the dual role of Bruce Wayne/Batman.

The film also stars Anne Hathaway, as Selina Kyle; Tom Hardy, as Bane; Oscar® winner Marion Cotillard (“La Vie en Rose”), as Miranda Tate; and Joseph Gordon-Levitt, as John Blake.

Returning to the main cast, Oscar® winner Michael Caine (“The Cider House Rules”) plays Alfred; Gary Oldman is Commissioner Gordon; and Oscar® winner Morgan Freeman (“Million Dollar Baby”) reprises the role of Lucius Fox.

In helming “The Dark Knight Rises,” Christopher Nolan is utilizing IMAX® cameras even more extensively than he did on “The Dark Knight,” which had marked the first time ever that a major feature film was partially shot with IMAX® cameras. The results were so spectacular that the director wanted to expand the use of the large-format cameras for this film.

The screenplay for “The Dark Knight Rises” is written by Christopher Nolan and Jonathan Nolan, story by Christopher Nolan & David S. Goyer. The film is being produced by Emma Thomas, Christopher Nolan and Charles Roven, who previously teamed on “Batman Begins” and the record-breaking blockbuster “The Dark Knight.” The executive producers are Benjamin Melniker, Michael E. Uslan, Kevin De La Noy and Thomas Tull, with Jordan Goldberg serving as co-producer. “The Dark Knight” is based upon characters appearing in comic books published by DC Comics. Batman was created by Bob Kane.

Behind the scenes, “The Dark Knight Rises” reunites the director with several of his longtime collaborators, all of whom worked together on the “The Dark Knight.” The creative team includes director of photography Wally Pfister, who recently won an Oscar® for his work on Nolan’s “Inception”; production designer Nathan Crowley; editor Lee Smith; and Oscar®-winning costume designer Lindy Hemming (“Topsy-Turvy”). In addition, Paul Franklin and Chris Corbould, who both won Oscars® for the effects in “Inception,” will supervise the visual and special effects, respectively. The music will be composed by Oscar® winner Hans Zimmer (“The Lion King”).

The locations for “The Dark Knight Rises” span three continents and include the American cities of Pittsburgh, New York and Los Angeles, as well as sites in India, England and Scotland.

“The Dark Knight Rises” is a presentation of Warner Bros. Pictures, in association with Legendary Pictures. Slated for release on July 20, 2012, the film will be distributed worldwide by Warner Bros. Pictures, a Warner Bros. Entertainment Company.


Either this is a glaring omission or devastating news. I'm hoping for the former, but sort of afraid it's the latter considering the stacks of lawyers and publicists who usually triple check these things before they go out.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2011 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   ClaytonMG   (Member)

Maybe he's just not signed on yet. We still have over a year before the film is released...

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2011 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   ctblass   (Member)

I suppose it's a possibility, but I really dislike how that makes JNH look, e.g., unimportant and not necessary. I wouldn't be too pleased with my publicist or agent if I wasn't included in the press release for the biggest film of 2012 but another composer was.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2011 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

It's not like Howard's contributions to the two previous scores are very noticable...they sound pretty much like all-Zimmer to me.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2011 - 9:18 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

He contributed a nice Shyamalan-esque piano/string theme for the Waynes that I would like to see continued, especially if TDKR is the final Nolan Batman film. Because Zimmer scores tend to overlap, I would not be surprised if he brought a few of the musical ideas heard in Inception into the new film. Regardless of JNH's involvement, I'm still looking forward to it!

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   cushinglee   (Member)

Katie Holmes was missed in Dark Knight more than Howard will be on this one. And yes, I'm being sarcastic.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

I thought JNH made some wonderful contributions to BATMAN BEGINS, and kind of provided the soul of the score. THE DARK KNIGHT sounded like Hans was more in control, but all the material for Harvey Dent (which I understand to be JNH) was interesting and evolved throughout the picture in a way that HZ's music typically doesn't (and didn't).

I don't really have a reaction to the idea that he might not work on the third film, to be honest with you. I feel JNH is infused in the musical DNA of the Nolan Batman movies already, and I'm sure HZ will write another solid 7 or 8 minutes of music for the new picture that his minions will adequately arrange for use throughout the score.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

File this under WHO CARES until JNH comes out and directly states what film score cues were his and which were collaboration with Hans Zimmer because while I think the man is a great composer, I don't think anything in BATMAN BEGINS or THE DARK KNIGHT ever truly sounded like his own personal work.

Also, would be nice to hear the FILM SCORE and not the sound effects and noise that the album releases have been filled with.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

So much hate for Nolan's Batman scores! So much disdain for Zimmer! (not just in this thread)

Damn. Chill, peeps.

Personally, I loved both of the first two scores and can't wait for the third, whether Zimmer alone or with Howard. Zimmerly speaking, I'm much more excited about the new Batman film score than the new Pirates of the Caribbean score, although I certainly will check out both.

Hoping for more cues like "Aggressive Expansion," "Agent of Chaos," "Lasirius," "Like a Dog Chasing Cars," and "And I Thought My Jokes Were Bad."

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

Oh, I love the two Nolan Batman scores! I credit BEGINS for finally thawing my opinion on Zimmer, and I actually think he's been doing consistently solid work since then.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Not a fan of the Nolan Batman... anything... really, but it did seem that JNH's input was much lesser in Dark Knight compared to Batman Begins. After working together on Inception, I wouldn't be surprised to see Zimmer play it solo this time.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

Oh, I love the two Nolan Batman scores! I credit BEGINS for finally thawing my opinion on Zimmer, and I actually think he's been doing consistently solid work since then.

But how much of the work is actually Zimmer's and not Balfe or some other RC/MV composer?

I think the music in BATMAN BEINGS and THE DARK KNIGHT worked VERY well in the film but the albums are garbage and have way too many added elements that ruin the presentation of actual music. I cannot wait until Lala Land release these scores in proper C&C so that I can finally make up my mind on these scores.

As for "Zimmer hate", I listen to most of the scores with his name on it and I feel he is consistent but nothing crazy good or great and the issue of credit always seems a mystery. CRYSIS 2 actually feels like some left over material from INCEPTION and is actually credited to both Zimmer and Balfe so....

Still, I'm sure the score without JNH will be find considering Nolan and Zimmer's collaboration/partnership. Best of luck to him.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   ClaytonMG   (Member)

What added elements are there as far as "noise and sound effects"? They're suites so it's not just a bunch of random short cues. I personally think The Dark Knight as an album would be a mess if it was chronological. The CD released flows very, very well. I think whatever noises you're hearing are the score...

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

THE DARK KNIGHT to me is the better score because there is less of the electronic processing that Zimmer's action scores are full of. It's more 'pure' in an orchestral sense.

I find it ironic that for all of Zimmer's crap about Elfman's theme, he quoted it in TDK. Subtle quote but it's there.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Don't know why people always act as though Zimmer is the only composer working today who has additional uncredited composers working for him. It's more common than people think, and certainly not limited to Zimmer, yet for some reason around here he gets all the heat.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

I find it ironic that for all of Zimmer's crap about Elfman's theme, he quoted it in TDK. Subtle quote but it's there.

Where?

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

I find it ironic that for all of Zimmer's crap about Elfman's theme, he quoted it in TDK. Subtle quote but it's there.

Where?


Orignal album / disc 1:

track 2: "I'm Not a Hero".

It's in the second half of the Batman theme that comes in after the clicking / ticking percussion.

track 14: "A Dark Knight"

Special edition album disc 2:

track 2: "Buyer Beware".

It's a subtle but too-similar-to-be-coincidence musical phrase that makes up Zimmer's Batman theme and these are the three album tracks it appears in.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 12:50 PM   
 By:   ClaytonMG   (Member)

Don't know why people always act as though Zimmer is the only composer working today who has additional uncredited composers working for him. It's more common than people think, and certainly not limited to Zimmer, yet for some reason around here he gets all the heat.

I still think it's funny that if someone helps out a little on Zimmer's albums, he ussualy gives them a great deal of credit. Then people complan that there were too many composer (what differences does it make?!) Then if people think he doesn't credit them, they start insulting Zimmer for that.

But like you said, every composer has help.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2011 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

But how much of the work is actually Zimmer's and not Balfe or some other RC/MV composer?


Zimmer contributed far more music to BB and TDK than he did to the POTC franchise. Unlike those scores, Zimmer didn't just write the themes and let others score the film. Only a few cues here and there are by Balfe, Jackman, and Djawadi.

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2011 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   ctblass   (Member)

Saw the 6-minute IMAX prologue the other night. A stunning and larger than life opening to what may possibly be the best movie in the series -- which is saying something, imo.

The score for the prologue was pretty much Zimmer doing his thing. A nice taste of the chant that has been widely talked about. I noticed a touch of Inception in some of the action and basslines. The action had faster tempo than the rest of the series, hinting at some of the action writing from Angels and Demons. At least that's how I heard it. It all went by so quick and it was hard to absorb it all.

Anyone else catch the prologue?

 
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