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 Posted:   Apr 3, 2002 - 7:55 PM   
 By:   I_Am_Artist   (Member)

Does anyone have CHRISTUS APOLLO by Goldsmith? I've never heard of it before finding it on Amazon so I'm curious what it is about. Is it a classical piece or from a film? What year was it composed?

Thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2002 - 8:56 PM   
 By:   Beatty   (Member)

have you searched the message board database for previous threads?

this is a google search that got a fair number of returns:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=christus+apollo+goldsmith

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2002 - 11:32 PM   
 By:   pete   (Member)

I recieved mine yesterday from Intrada,
and The Christus Apollo piece was written in 1970, The Music for Orchestra piece was written in 1969. They are concert pieces, ie not written for a movie.

(or maybe it was the other way around??) The other piece on the CD Fireworks was written in 1999.
Fireworks is really growing on me, but I haven't listened to the other pieces yet,
Sorry I couldn't be of more help!!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2002 - 9:58 PM   
 By:   Dr Know   (Member)

Fireworks has easily joined the shortlist of my favorite Goldsmith pieces, but Christus Apollo is a little too avant-garde for my taste.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2002 - 12:56 AM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

Well, you all know by now that Goldsmith is my FAVORITE, but when I heard Christus Apollo on that boot a few years ago, I thought, "SHIT! This SUCKS!!"
There is only ONE other Goldsmith composition that I feel this way about... not bad considering how much he has composed!!!smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2002 - 5:37 AM   
 By:   Chris Kinsinger   (Member)

Please drop the other shoe, Jim.
What's that other Goldsmith work?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2002 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   Bill R. Myers   (Member)

I think it's Goldsmith's magnum opus. Blends the impressionistic with the liturgical in a particularly striking way.

NP: Moon Over Parador (Jarre)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2002 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

I'm particularly blown away by everything on the CD. Fireworks is a fine postmodern concert piece but the other two have really come alive for me and show the man's true ability. I've had the boot versions of all of them for a long time and up till now I've felt Christus Apollo to be bizarre bordering on pretentious. But the new recording reveals all the subtleties an nuances that Goldsmith built into the thing. It's challenging, to be sure, but if you follow along with the written narrative in the booklet the music takes on a meaning that might not be appreciated without comprehending the lyrics and narration.

Similarly with Music for Orchestra in which Goldsmith describes his emotional turmoil (also in the liner notes) at the time of composing it. In that light it becomes a deeply personal piece of violent agitation and anguish. I love it.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2002 - 6:35 PM   
 By:   Andy   (Member)

got it today as SACD, sounds good, but i think the voice of the original ( charlton heston) fits a bit better than hopkins

fireworks is great, but reminds me a lot of THE MUMMY wink (which i like)

Andy

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2002 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Didn't I just recently post a topic on this?? If I remember correctly,it died a horrible death after a few posts! Hope you have better luck this time!

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

OBVIOUSLY there wasn't much love for Jerry Goldsmith's "Christus Apollo." But last night I wanted to check out my surround system and put on the SACD (which is a CD hybrid) from Telarc with Goldsmith conducting the London Symphony Orchestra, and while I still am not in love with it, I enjoyed the 2 instrumental pieces that are bookends for it, "Music For Orchestra," and, especially, "Fireworks." They are each more than 8 minutes of excitement and I'm glad to have them ("Fireworks" seems to have an Elmer Bernstein panoramic sweep to it). But with this posting dying in 2002, and the same for another on this recording, it doesn't look like anyone here had much interest in any of this music by Jerry Goldsmith.

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

But with this posting dying in 2002, and the same for another on this recording, it doesn't look like anyone here had much interest in any of this music by Jerry Goldsmith.

I played "Music For Orchestra" on my show last week.
http://www.cinematicsound.net/concert-music-by-film-composers/

It's a great piece. Arguably one of the most personal pieces of Goldsmith's career.

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Erik: Great! Glad someone is keeping this music alive!

Follow-Up: I tried to listen to the program, and while it sounded terrific, it kept cutting out after about 20 seconds, and then, after a 5 or 6 second pause, start back up again. It happened repeatedly with part 3 and also when I tried part 1. What was I doing wrong?

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 2:50 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

What was I doing wrong?

I'm not sure. The show is streaming fine on my end. Maybe a slow connection on your end?

-Erik-

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 3:19 PM   
 By:   Membership Expired   (Member)

The Telearc is a superb release.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

But with this posting dying in 2002, and the same for another on this recording, it doesn't look like anyone here had much interest in any of this music by Jerry Goldsmith.

I played "Music For Orchestra" on my show last week.
http://www.cinematicsound.net/concert-music-by-film-composers/

It's a great piece. Arguably one of the most personal pieces of Goldsmith's career.

-Erik-


It's one of my favorite Goldsmith pieces. Sure, the musical language is challenging but you'd never mistake the composer. The string writing and ostinati gives him away.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 4:02 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

The Telearc is a superb release.

I think the Telarc sounds horrible!

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Erik:

The second time was the charm! And your program is a delight! I'm into the 2nd violin concerto of Lee Holdridge, and would have come back here earlier, but was afraid that I was going to be disconnected from your program, but, happily, it goes on! It would be perfect for listening to on my iPod while I'm out and about. Any podcasts? Thanks for alerting us to this!

http://www.cinematicsound.net/concert-music-by-film-composers/

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 4:09 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

The Telearc is a superb release.

I think the Telarc sounds horrible!



Same here, Horrible!!

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

But with this posting dying in 2002, and the same for another on this recording, it doesn't look like anyone here had much interest in any of this music by Jerry Goldsmith.

I played "Music For Orchestra" on my show last week.
http://www.cinematicsound.net/concert-music-by-film-composers/

It's a great piece. Arguably one of the most personal pieces of Goldsmith's career.

-Erik-


I hope you can do a next session with concert classical music by Don Davis, Philippe Sarde, Rosenman, Morricone, Williams, Korngold, Rozsa, etc. etc. included even Horner (I' ve once read he composed a double concerto for violin and cello).

 
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