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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      General Discussion: Herrmann's THE BIRDS     1 2    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Nov 29, 2010 - 1:23 PM     By:   Marcato   (Member) According to the site where i find film score sheet there should be some music pieces to THE BIRDS. I have not seen them myself as of this writing so I cannot comment further on them. In the film there is no score but electronic Bird-sounds. If there should be a real score written before it was decided to go with electroninc effects could it have been re-recorded OR could it be a task to re-record it??? Or has it already been recorded?    Posted:   Nov 29, 2010 - 1:26 PM     By:   Robert0320   (Member) I for one believe this film would ahve been even more effective with a score. I find musicless films a tad boring, not matter how "realistic" the film makers think they are.    Posted:   Nov 29, 2010 - 1:28 PM     By:   Jeff Bond   (Member) There was never any written score I'm aware of--Herrmann was just onboard as an advisor. And I find the film perfectly effective without a score.    Posted:   Nov 29, 2010 - 1:29 PM     By:   Marcato   (Member) I for one believe this film would ahve been even more effective with a score. I find musicless films a tad boring, not matter how "realistic" the film makers think they are. I could try to see what i can do about those rumored musical pieces    Posted:   Nov 29, 2010 - 1:32 PM     By:   Marcato   (Member) There was never any written score I'm aware of--Herrmann was just onboard as an advisor. And I find the film perfectly effective without a score. I'll go investigate it - while I don't know anything about it I still think it would be fun to do About the film - I find that a remix ala. disney's SLEEPING BEAUTY could do well - there was some hiss before the "sounding birds" were heard on the dvd. EDIT:' There exist one piece on 14 pages - That's all I Know so far. I'm gonna dig into it.    Posted:   Nov 29, 2010 - 1:39 PM     By:   morrifan   (Member) There exist one piece on 14 pages - That's all I Know so far. I'm gonna dig into it. Please do!    Posted:   Nov 29, 2010 - 1:44 PM     By:   Marcato   (Member) There exist one piece on 14 pages - That's all I Know so far. I'm gonna dig into it. Please do! I'm already on it BUT please beware that it could be some created piece by someone that has it listed like THE BIRDS and then fooled everyone into believing it to be piece to this film. On the other hands I've seen the film and I find the ending scene (where she says "no......no.....no......" to be the best scene in the film.    Posted:   Nov 29, 2010 - 1:57 PM     By:   Marcato   (Member) UPDATE: It turns out to be an Hermannesque score by Bill Wrobel. So we have a piece where a guy have tried to create some music to THE BIRDS in the Hermann-style. Well that settles it. So far no music exist for THE BIRDS.    Posted:   Nov 29, 2010 - 3:08 PM     By:   LRobHubbard   (Member) Jesus, this again.... Herrmann composed NO music for THE BIRDS. There is no proper score, only the sound effects of bird cries, created electronically, which function as the 'score'. Herrmann gets the title 'Musical Consultant', but he did not compose anything for the film.    Posted:   Nov 29, 2010 - 3:10 PM     By:   Marcato   (Member) Jesus, this again.... Herrmann composed NO music for THE BIRDS. There is no proper score, only the sound effects of bird cries, created electronically, which function as the 'score'. Herrmann gets the title 'Musical Consultant', but he did not compose anything for the film. Read the above post - the one above your post.    Posted:   Nov 29, 2010 - 4:03 PM     By:   Hester_Pryne   (Member) Herrmann is listed in the credits as "Sound consultant." Enigmatic, but there it is. The film is fine without a score.    Posted:   Nov 29, 2010 - 6:54 PM     By:   Great Escape   (Member) This thread is for the birds.    Posted:   Nov 30, 2010 - 3:54 AM     By:   Guenther K   (Member) Well the "bird sounds" were made by an electronic musical instrument... the Mixtur-Trautonium. Oskar Sala did the sound composition.    Posted:   Nov 30, 2010 - 4:14 AM     By:   Marcato   (Member) Well the "bird sounds" were made by an electronic musical instrument... the Mixtur-Trautonium. Oskar Sala did the sound composition. Just for newcomers to this thread i re-post my discoveries made some posts ago It turns out to be an Hermannesque score by Bill Wrobel. So we have a piece where a guy have tried to create some music to THE BIRDS in the Hermann-style. Well that settles it. So far no music exist for THE BIRDS.    Posted:   Nov 30, 2010 - 2:29 PM     By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member) Bill Wrobel posts here, and has his own 'Filmscore Rundowns' site that provides musical technical descriptions in words, of pieces that aren't allowed to be posted as scoresheets or soundfiles for copyright reasons. He's an 'expert' on Herrmann and you can read a lot of his insights over on the 'Talking Herrmann' forum. As a musician himself, he attempts these exercises as experiments in understanding the compositional techniques. As pointed out above, many of the birdsounds were 'composed' effects by another composer, and Herrmann had supervision of that. You may regard it as an avante-garde composition. A s a quirky CD it could still sell as an OST if located.    Posted:   Nov 30, 2010 - 2:49 PM     By:   Marcato   (Member) Bill Wrobel posts here, and has his own 'Filmscore Rundowns' site that provides musical technical descriptions in words, of pieces that aren't allowed to be posted as scoresheets or soundfiles for copyright reasons. He's an 'expert' on Herrmann and you can read a lot of his insights over on the 'Talking Herrmann' forum. As a musician himself, he attempts these exercises as experiments in understanding the compositional techniques. As pointed out above, many of the birdsounds were 'composed' effects by another composer, and Herrmann had supervision of that. You may regard it as an avante-garde composition. A s a quirky CD it could still sell as an OST if located. The work INVADERS FROM MARS by Young comes to my mind here.    Posted:   Nov 30, 2010 - 4:34 PM     By:   Eugene Iemola   (Member) "As pointed out above, many of the birdsounds were 'composed' effects by another composer, and Herrmann had supervision of that. You may regard it as an avante-garde composition. A s a quirky CD it could still sell as an OST if located." Does anyone have the latest dvd of The Birds, because all the bird "songs" play on the on screen menu. They're all different and recognizable from the film. Check it out.    Posted:   Dec 1, 2010 - 3:53 AM     By:   Guenther K   (Member) As pointed out above, many of the birdsounds were 'composed' effects by another composer, and Herrmann had supervision of that. You may regard it as an avante-garde composition. A s a quirky CD it could still sell as an OST if located. Most of Sala's tapes are now at the German Museum in Munich... not sure if the Birds are amongst them... Here is an article about the problems they have... http://www.bath.ac.uk/ncuacs/FPIV%20Fuessl.htm    Posted:   Aug 21, 2018 - 2:31 AM     By:   Filmscoremonty   (Member) At the risk of discussing a "footwarmer", I received a regular new release email from a soundtrack site in Japan which lists the following tracks as part of a multi disc compilation: 1. Intro 1:33 2. Melanie Leaves Brenner's House 0:13 3. Seagulls/Cathy's Party 1:04 4. Swifts In Brenner's House 1:17 5. Crows/School 1:38 6. Seagull/Oil Station 0:02 7. Bird's Attack/After Explosion 2:01 8. The Crows Again/Annie Is Dead 0:35 9. Birds Attack/Brenner's House 3:59 10. Fluttering 0:13 11. Melanie Attacked/Attic 2:07 12. The End 4:26    Posted:   Aug 21, 2018 - 2:38 AM     By:   haineshisway   (Member) At the risk of discussing a "footwarmer", I received a regular new release email from a soundtrack site in Japan which lists the following tracks as part of a multi disc compilation: 1. Intro 1:33 2. Melanie Leaves Brenner's House 0:13 3. Seagulls/Cathy's Party 1:04 4. Swifts In Brenner's House 1:17 5. Crows/School 1:38 6. Seagull/Oil Station 0:02 7. Bird's Attack/After Explosion 2:01 8. The Crows Again/Annie Is Dead 0:35 9. Birds Attack/Brenner's House 3:59 10. Fluttering 0:13 11. Melanie Attacked/Attic 2:07 12. The End 4:26 Oh dear. How about a link so we can ALL see what it is you're talking about. Sounds like a load of hooey to me, which this thread has been since post number one.     General Discussion: Herrmann's THE BIRDS    < 1 2  > >>  Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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