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 Posted:   Dec 5, 2008 - 11:53 AM   
 By:   Sean   (Member)

Got mine last week. "Goodbye Akton" is essential. Love Love Love that Barry sound!

cool

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2008 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

That's a goodie, but for me, I can't get enough of "Space Battle"
Kinda reminds me of the secondary Bond theme (from russia with love). Love the counterpoint.

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2008 - 5:16 PM   
 By:   Storyteller   (Member)

That's a goodie, but for me, I can't get enough of "Space Battle"
Kinda reminds me of the secondary Bond theme (from russia with love). Love the counterpoint.


Question:

Do you mean "Space War"? I couldn't find a track titled "Space Battle". It does have that Bond sound you mentioned.

My favorite cover is the CD:



I just love that pulp look.

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2008 - 5:31 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Got mine in the mail today. Great, great stuff and the liner notes are even better.

"Imperial battleship - HALT THE FLOW OF TIME!"

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2008 - 3:24 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Hi,

I said I'd do a side-by-side comparison. Well, I lied. But I will answer the question about how it compares with the Silva Screen edition.

First of all, I believe I remember Ford Thaxton once informing me (or posting on a board) that when Silva Screen did Star Crash, the master tape was literally crumbling as they used it. If I'm mis-remembering, I'm sure he'll say so.

So, unless there is another master or I'm mistaken (both are possible), I didn't think this new CD would from the tapes - and listening to it, I think that's probably so. (I'm hoping Ford will tell us more about the production of this CD.)

It seems to me that this CD is basically the same digital transfer as the Silva Screen one, but with some additional work in something like ProTools to clean it up a bit.

One things I immediately noticed on first listen is this:

In track 9 at about 1:05 I noticed a 'stanza' of the music seemed to start just a tad too suddenly, as if there'd been a cut. I reviewed the Silva Screen version and was reminded that, on that CD, the stanza before 1:05 was damaged. I suspect the 'suddenness' I noticed was a repair job, perhaps taking one stanza and moulding it over the damaged one.

I also seem to think the sound has been processed a bit to add more 'attack' to the bass (e.g. at about 1:50 of that same track 9). But that could be my ears deceiving me.

The only other obvious thing on 1st list is that 'Red Ball Attack' is now 'Network Ball Attack'.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2008 - 4:04 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

It seems to me that this CD is basically the same digital transfer as the Silva Screen one, but with some additional work in something like ProTools to clean it up a bit.

So, Steve, in your considered opinion, which is the "definitive" version of this album? The "raw", slightly messier Silva disc or the "cleaner" but (over?) processed La-La disc?

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2008 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

First, this is a BUYSOUNDTRAX release, not LaLaLand Records.

Second, why would you describe the sound on this is as "over" processed? I don't see this in Steven's review. Have you listened to the clips on the BSX site? You should be able to tell rather quickly that this sounds better than the Silva presentation.

I'm biased here but, to my ears, this is a sonic improvement across the board to the previous Silva Screen release of STARCRASH.

I don't think I'm alone in this regard.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2008 - 5:56 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

That's a goodie, but for me, I can't get enough of "Space Battle"
Kinda reminds me of the secondary Bond theme (from russia with love). Love the counterpoint.


Question:

Do you mean "Space War"? I couldn't find a track titled "Space Battle". It does have that Bond sound you mentioned.

My favorite cover is the CD:



I just love that pulp look.


Woops! yeah, Space War.

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2008 - 12:35 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I defnitely think the BSX edition sounds better. The work they've done does improve it in my opinion. And it's nice to have it in a CD with its own art.

One thing I would have loved is this:

As many of you know, the BSX / Silva CD doesn't follow the original album assembly. The new assembly definitely makes more sense. But I'm nostalgic for the original album. Also, I forget which track it is, but one track on the original album had a longer intro (curtailed on the Silva / BSX presentation, due to master tape damage I believe).

(In that sense, to answer an earlier question, you could actually say the original vynil - which predates any master tape damage and repair - is the most pure presentation, sonically. But that's not much use as we're not in the vynil age anymore, and that's quite a rare vynil anyway. Besides, BSX has done a very good job of restoring the score. The Silva version revealed damage in only a few places and the restored version on BSX does sound good.)

I'd have loved it if the original album assembly was also on the CD as a bonus, perhaps transferred from the vynil. Or, at least an LP transfer of that one track.

That said, this is me thinking "what's the absolute most brilliant thing that could have happened for a sad collector like me". I'd never expect that level of commitment to what is a fairly 'fringe' CD. BSX have done a great job as it is and I'm pleased - even though I don't think this is great Barry (I like the 'insides' of the score, but I think the main title is cheesy and actually a bit embarrassing!) - that this score has had the love-and-care presentation it has.

I have to re-emphasise that I'm working from an unreliable memory here. That's why I'm hoping Ford will tell us the definitive story about the story about the 'making of' this CD.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2008 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

I just got this CD and heard the score for the very first time. It's wonderful!

Neil

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2008 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

I defnitely think the BSX edition sounds better. The work they've done does improve it in my opinion. And it's nice to have it in a CD with its own art.

One thing I would have loved is this:

As many of you know, the BSX / Silva CD doesn't follow the original album assembly. The new assembly definitely makes more sense. But I'm nostalgic for the original album. Also, I forget which track it is, but one track on the original album had a longer intro (curtailed on the Silva / BSX presentation, due to master tape damage I believe).

(In that sense, to answer an earlier question, you could actually say the original vynil - which predates any master tape damage and repair - is the most pure presentation, sonically. But that's not much use as we're not in the vynil age anymore, and that's quite a rare vynil anyway. Besides, BSX has done a very good job of restoring the score. The Silva version revealed damage in only a few places and the restored version on BSX does sound good.)

I'd have loved it if the original album assembly was also on the CD as a bonus, perhaps transferred from the vynil. Or, at least an LP transfer of that one track.

That said, this is me thinking "what's the absolute most brilliant thing that could have happened for a sad collector like me". I'd never expect that level of commitment to what is a fairly 'fringe' CD. BSX have done a great job as it is and I'm pleased - even though I don't think this is great Barry (I like the 'insides' of the score, but I think the main title is cheesy and actually a bit embarrassing!) - that this score has had the love-and-care presentation it has.

I have to re-emphasise that I'm working from an unreliable memory here. That's why I'm hoping Ford will tell us the definitive story about the story about the 'making of' this CD.

Cheers


Posting from 28 Aug 07:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=44506&forumID=1&archive=

FTAO MusicMad

The LP and CD release of Starcrash contains exactly the same content.

Most kind - just sequenced differently (joining/splitting some cuts, etc.)?

The LP has 12 tracks whilst the CD has 13. Given the timings (per STC) are 36:30 / 33:46 respectively it looks as though the CD is missing some pieces (despite the extra track).

For example, the timings of the End Title are 3:40 / 2:53 so I wonder whether the LP merely duplicated some of the music.


I must check to see if I still have a recording of the Lp version. I'm so used to the CD release that the vinyl release would sound strange now.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2008 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

Starcrash and Doctor Who seaspn 4 were waiting for me when I got home last night.

Gonna play 'em in just a bit after I'm a little more awake.

Thanks again to Mark & BSX for that cool Torchwood bonus disc.

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2009 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   panavision   (Member)

I just got this CD and heard the score for the very first time. It's wonderful!

Neil


I agree. I can't stop listening to it today.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2009 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

I'm a big fan of this score. Ironically it is one of those scores a number of Barry die-hards are lukewarm about. Go figure.

 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2014 - 6:43 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Saw Starcrash for the first time in my life. (on Netflix) Obviously the music is it's only saving grace. Though I wonder what JB was watching when he scored the film? The music doesn't fit the film at all. Samples on Amazon sound amazingly good!

 
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