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He's back ...
And He means business.
Kick Ass Messiah .... At a cinema near you.
I saw an article, I think in the Independent, where the film is described as portraying 'Christ's three days on earth after the Resurrection'. The New Testament says 40 days. Somebody's confused.
The lovely thing about Robert Powell was that he went on to do jobbing TV work, good movies, and comedy with Jasper Carrot. He played it down. Enrique Irazocqui went back to teaching. Willem Defoe, Deacon, Hunter, Von Sydow.... sensibly moved on. Whereas Jim... apotheosed.
I saw 'The Patriot' through for the first time last week. Nazi burning of civilians scene in a church as reprisal. Except, whatever the British did or didn't do in the Colonies, they didn't do that.
Mel's a sensationalist bigot who exploits S&M.
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Jan 31, 2018 - 9:16 PM
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He's back ...
And He means business.
Kick Ass Messiah .... At a cinema near you.
I saw an article, I think in the Independent, where the film is described as portraying 'Christ's three days on earth after the Resurrection'. The New Testament says 40 days. Somebody's confused.
The lovely thing about Robert Powell was that he went on to do jobbing TV work, good movies, and comedy with Jasper Carrot. He played it down. Enrique Irazocqui went back to teaching. Willem Defoe, Deacon, Hunter, Von Sydow.... sensibly moved on. Whereas Jim... apotheosed.
I saw 'The Patriot' through for the first time last week. Nazi burning of civilians scene in a church as reprisal. Except, whatever the British did or didn't do in the Colonies, they didn't do that.
Mel's a sensationalist bigot who exploits S&M.
You said it, not me.
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Feb 1, 2018 - 9:18 AM
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I like that Kevin Reynolds film from a couple years ago, "Risen". It was pretty much a sequel to "The Passion" anyway...
https://www.bustle.com/articles/142504-is-risen-a-sequel-to-the-passion-of-the-christ-they-share-some-important-details
Thanks for that post, Thomas. The statement in the last sentence of the last paragraph makes quite a bit of sense to me. After all, it is part of the greatest 'hand me down' ever told.
I wonder what makes Mr Gibson such a staunch advocate of the faith?
I saw an article, I think in the Independent, where the film is described as portraying 'Christ's three days on earth after the Resurrection'. The New Testament says 40 days. Somebody's confused.
Surely, Mel Gibson will take scholarly advice on the interpretation, and fit in his quota of unambiguous embellishments to fit the picture? Just so long as he doesn't revisit those nasty, puerile 'bad guy' cinematic, throwaway gimmicks, as well as the Wylerian diktat for "more blood." Insofar as repeated home watching is concerned, they're just plain awful to look at.
By the way, I think Saul of Tarsus was probably very similar to Gibson in terms of motivational drive.
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He's back ...
And He means business.
Kick Ass Messiah .... At a cinema near you.
I saw an article, I think in the Independent, where the film is described as portraying 'Christ's three days on earth after the Resurrection'. The New Testament says 40 days. Somebody's confused.
The lovely thing about Robert Powell was that he went on to do jobbing TV work, good movies, and comedy with Jasper Carrot. He played it down. Enrique Irazocqui went back to teaching. Willem Defoe, Deacon, Hunter, Von Sydow.... sensibly moved on. Whereas Jim... apotheosed.
I saw 'The Patriot' through for the first time last week. Nazi burning of civilians scene in a church as reprisal. Except, whatever the British did or didn't do in the Colonies, they didn't do that.
Mel's a sensationalist bigot who exploits S&M.
You said it, not me.
The Solium Concurrence
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Why would you blame Mel Gibson for the church burning scene in The Patriot when Gibson did not write, direct, or produce the movie?
It was directed by a German. I thoroughly dislike national stereotyping, a Hollywood stock in trade, but it still gets irksome when you see a German hand out lessons on atrocities. It was done a hundred times in Russia, and once in France. By guess who. And guess who fought it.
The writer I don't even remember. But I feel as a film it has Gibson all over it ... in spirit. It's loathsome to invent that sort of slur just to peak an audience's vicarious need for atrocity victims.
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THE PATRIOT was conceived as a biopic of Francis Marion. "The Swamp Fox". When they discovered he was a slaveholding bigot they fictionalized it; DIE HARD: THE REVOLUTION.
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Roland Emmerich may be German, but he's made his living out of highlighting, exploring and sometimes also celebrating (in a satiric) way American and Hollywood conventions/genres. A bit like Wolfgang Petersen. So he's probably the LEAST appropriate target for that criticism (which is kinda peculiar and mildly offensive to begin with).
So it's a satire? It's definitely not a deeply contrived bit of sensationalist kitsch then? Ol' Mel and Roland were really sending up the Mel image then?
That's a relief. Here's me thinking it was a serious celebration of old Swamp Fox Frank. It turns out he was just having fun with the genre, seeing where it could go. You learn a little every day. I can now revisit the film as an exploration of Hollywood hero archetype stereotypes.
There's hope for 'Oskar Schindler II: Back With a Vengeance'. That script never saw the light of day. That's the one where Oskar comes out of retirement and joins a crack agency to rescue Checkpoint Charlie refugees held in an evil British concentration camp, and helps them get to America. Break the mould.
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Surely, Mel Gibson will take scholarly advice on the interpretation, and fit in his quota of unambiguous embellishments to fit the picture? Just so long as he doesn't revisit those nasty, puerile 'bad guy' cinematic, throwaway gimmicks, as well as the Wylerian diktat for "more blood." Insofar as repeated home watching is concerned, they're just plain awful to look at.
By the way, I think Saul of Tarsus was probably very similar to Gibson in terms of motivational drive.
Yeah, Saul was OCD for sure, he always had to fight it, and sometimes lost.
There's this famous bit in I Corinthians (?) where he says it's wrong to exercise your freedom and 'eat meat offered to idols' in case your weaker brethren copy you and don't understand.
Just like Mel. He'd never make a film that the extremists with less savvy could misinterpret or use as an excuse for bigotry. Certainly not. Mostly. Sort of.
Both wrestle with their upbringings. It's harder when you're pissed.
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