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 Posted:   Dec 2, 2017 - 10:04 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

.....can anyone tell me why Murray Hamilton had NO LINES in the movie?! The only thing he did, other than looking around, was catch on fire... which was pretty cool!big grin

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 4:32 AM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

Was he wearing the suit jacket with anchors on it?

I haven't seen the film but perhaps he had some dialogue that ended up on the cutting room floor.

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 6:36 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I remember seeing this in the theater. I thought it was terrible. The effects were very tacky and looked like something you would find in a television production. The only cool part were the stop motion scorpions.

Wasn't this around the same time as Laserblast? Saw that in the theater too. I had my old man take me to all these cheap sci fi knock offs after Star Wars premiered. LOL

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

The only cool part were the stop motion scorpions.

Sorry to make you hate the movie more, but the scorpions weren't stop motion. They were just real scorpions blue-screened onto the action. Probably about as well as they pull it off at the time. I thought the laser effects in the sky were almost cool, if only they had been locked to the camera moves better. They were probably quite expensive.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

I Watched the entire movie last night on youtube, and I have to say that I really like the film, just as much as when I saw it in the theatre! The Scorpion effects were a LOT better than I remembered them being, and I thought the sky effects were awesome.

Oh.... and the score was so-so. big grinbig grinbig grinbig grinbig grinbig grin

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

The only cool part were the stop motion scorpions.

Sorry to make you hate the movie more, but the scorpions weren't stop motion. They were just real scorpions blue-screened onto the action. Probably about as well as they pull it off at the time. I thought the laser effects in the sky were almost cool, if only they had been locked to the camera moves better. They were probably quite expensive.


Ha, guess I miss-remembered. I've only seen the film once, and that was 40 years ago. I hated the sky effects. It was an over used effect in "B" films and the matte lines were terrible even for its time.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 11:45 AM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

I Watched the entire movie last night on youtube, and I have to say that I really like the film, just as much as when I saw it in the theatre! The Scorpion effects were a LOT better than I remembered them being, and I thought the sky effects were awesome.

Oh.... and the score was so-so. big grinbig grinbig grinbig grinbig grinbig grin


I detect....sarcasm.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

I Watched the entire movie last night on youtube, and I have to say that I really like the film, just as much as when I saw it in the theatre! The Scorpion effects were a LOT better than I remembered them being, and I thought the sky effects were awesome.

Oh.... and the score was so-so. big grinbig grinbig grinbig grinbig grinbig grin


I detect....sarcasm.


YOOOUUUU DOOOOOOOO? big grinbig grinbig grin
I guess this is the wrong side of the board to state this, but that music Goldsmith composed for the final moments of the film is some of the most beautifull he ever composed, and fit the film like a glove!

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Two words: "Killer cockroaches".

I've had the displeasure of seeing parts of this movie before. [n]Jerry sure got the turkeys.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Re that glorious Finale music.
I always thought it was like the producers said 'remember that music you did at the end of Logan's Run...do it again-ish'.
And he did smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

It's clear that the only redeeming feature of this film is Jerry's score. I saw it during its original run (in "Sound 360") and enjoyed the music so much that I didn't care about the rest. Many threads have shown that this score is near or at the top of the "holy grail" list. All that seems to be missing is the synth tracks. The major soundtrack labels no doubt realize that there is great demand for this title. Either re-record the synth tracks over the the original score or do a complete re-recording! Get to it!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

Sorry, skip down one.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

In all fairness to the special effects group responsible for the sky effects, the film had been shot with absolutely no thought as to how to achieve the sky effects. Faced with no "locked-down" scenes, loaded with pans and moving camera shots, They did the best they could. It's actually more disturbing that they seemed to have a problem with dirt and dust bits on their plates from time to time.

And, sorry, it all fell apart when the bi-packed scorpions showed up. The only thing that kept me hanging in there was the great Goldsmith music.

Also, I seem to remember when I saw the film just after it opened there WAS a scene between George Peppard and Murray Hamilton just before the catastrophic explosion of the complex, establishing Hamilton's dissolution into depression and alcoholism. I was somewhat surprised that this scene was gone when DAMNATION made it's first TV appearance and has remained missing from all it's video incarnations. (I can only assume that the bean counters at Fox were able to avoid paying TV and video residuals to poor Hamilton if they eliminated his one dialogue scene.)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

It's clear that the only redeeming feature of this film is Jerry's score. I saw it during its original run (in "Sound 360") and enjoyed the music so much that I didn't care about the rest. Many threads have shown that this score is near or at the top of the "holy grail" list. All that seems to be missing is the synth tracks. The major soundtrack labels no doubt realize that there is great demand for this title. Either re-record the synth tracks over the the original score or do a complete re-recording! Get to it!

Ummmm... you're kidding, Erik.... right? Sure! That's it! You're KIDDING! wink Nudge-nudge!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

I caught this movie one night about 25 years ago on Joe Bob Briggs, and it was terrible. Terrible, but cheesy fun!!! smile To be honest, having only seen it once a quarter of a Century ago, I can't remember much about Jerry Goldsmith's score (I do remember lots of synths), but I'm sure it's great, and I'll definitely get it if and when it's released....

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

but I'm sure it's great, and I'll definitely get it if and when it's released....

Ummmm... you're kidding, Jenk.....right? Sure! That's it! You're KIDDING! Nudge-nudge! big grinbig grinbig grin

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

Well, I'm the happy outsider here, as I like that film and prefer it to "Total recall" to name just another Jerry Goldsmith venture.
Best thing in the film besides Jerry's music is Dean Jeffries' contribution.
"Dean Jeffries D.S.?"
Yes, Dean Jeffries.
"What did he do in Damnation Allery?"
"He built the Landmaster. The goddamned phenomenal LANDMASTER!



Before the Aliens APC there was.......... the Landmaster: An amphibious personnel carier and enemy killer, ready for the post nuclear wasteland.


It had its own music theme and it too was the best of the entire soundtrack.
What Goldsmith was for music, Dean Jeffries was for film vehicles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26n3RsXNyKE

Nolan can take his Batmobile to the playground. The Landmaster kicks its ass without even noticing it.

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

but I'm sure it's great, and I'll definitely get it if and when it's released....

Ummmm... you're kidding, Jenk.....right? Sure! That's it! You're KIDDING! Nudge-nudge! big grinbig grinbig grin



Okay... why is buying a Jerry Goldsmith CD (when I've liked all the other ones I've owned) funny?? Fill me in, please. confused

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

The Landmaster was the "star" of the film, though I have no recollection of the "elastic" middle. Reminds me of a Slinky!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2017 - 6:09 PM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

The major soundtrack labels no doubt realize that there is great demand for this title. Either re-record the synth tracks over the the original score or do a complete re-recording! Get to it!

The reason for the renewed discussion of the film is that Intrada is expected to release the soundtrack on Tuesday. They either found the synth elements, or replicated them, as you had suggested.

 
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