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 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Jet Pack Cue (JET-pak-kyoo) - A piece of library or other music that, when tracked into a TV show, becomes so recognizable in that context, it is considered a part of that show's music.

My phrase's nomenclature is derived from Bernard Herrmann's "Beneath the 12-Mile Reef" music that was memorably used in the jet pack segments of early "Lost in Space" episodes. If you watched that show as a kid (and God help anyone who watches that show as an adult), you cannot imagine a "Lost in Space" soundtrack omitting this music.

So, please feel free to use this phrase in all of your film score conversations, either here online, drinking with your friends, or at the water cooler in the workplace. And please remember that Your Beloved Onya Birri works tirelessly to inform and enliven our collective musical dialog.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Would it be acceptable if this phrase was used when referring to pop songs heard in films and TV or would that require a separate phrase (and subsequently, a separate thread)?

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Would it be acceptable if this phrase was used when referring to pop songs heard in films and TV or would that require a separate phrase (and subsequently, a separate thread)?

You mean like how songs from The Greatest American Hero are totally from that show and not the terrible cover versions they actually are?

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'm with you on the LIS "Jet Pack" cue. It will always be LIS music to me.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Would it be acceptable if this phrase was used when referring to pop songs heard in films and TV or would that require a separate phrase (and subsequently, a separate thread)?

Well, one of the characteristics of a living language is its adaptability and evolution over time. So if the phrase's meaning is used to encompass pop tunes, it is not appropriate for me as the phrase's inventor to either condone or condemn this usage.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Herrmann music from film was tracked into The Time Tunnel and even as a kid I was able to identify it. A sound from Journey...Earth sticks out.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I'm not sure how you can coin a phrase that everyone already used (as shorthand for that cue).

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Here is an sample usage:

In "Narcos," when Pablo Escobar enjoys an ice cream cone shortly before getting killed, Raymond Scott's "Portafino" is transformed into the perfect jet pack cue.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I'm not sure how you can coin a phrase that everyone already used (as shorthand for that cue).

It is intended for general usage outside of Lost in Space, like "Jump the shark" is used outside of "Happy Days," and not just for use within the context of "Lost in Space," which no one in their right mind watches anymore.

Please read my full post and not just the thread title.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Would it be acceptable if this phrase was used when referring to pop songs heard in films and TV or would that require a separate phrase (and subsequently, a separate thread)?

You mean like how songs from The Greatest American Hero are totally from that show and not the terrible cover versions they actually are?


When it originally aired, was originals. Licensing issues is why cant find or see anywhere. "Eve of Destruction" central to episode score and plot. Yet substituted for vanilla song.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I'm not sure how you can coin a phrase that everyone already used (as shorthand for that cue).

It is intended for general usage outside of Lost in Space, like "Jump the shark" is used outside of "Happy Days," and not just for use within the context of "Lost in Space," which no one in their right mind watches anymore.

Please read my full post and not just the thread title.


I read the post, but didnt get it (as a generalization). If you can get a celebrity to use it, all the google hits searching for an explanation will surely convince Websters to add it to the dictionary.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I read the post, but didnt get it (as a generalization). If you can get a celebrity to use it, all the google hits searching for an explanation will surely convince Websters to add it to the dictionary.

I think there are a lot of celebrities on the list, so I'm sure it will catch on. wink

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   Joe 1956   (Member)

I'm not sure how you can coin a phrase that everyone already used (as shorthand for that cue).

It is intended for general usage outside of Lost in Space, like "Jump the shark" is used outside of "Happy Days," and not just for use within the context of "Lost in Space," which no one in their right mind watches anymore.

Please read my full post and not just the thread title.


I also read it, and decided you're a few decades behind.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

"Where My Heart Will Take Me" is my least favorite jet pack song.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 9:15 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I also read it, and decided you're a few decades behind.

I am highly impressed by your decisions. Please share more of your insights with us.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2017 - 10:57 PM   
 By:   Great Escape   (Member)

I'm not sure how you can coin a phrase that everyone already used (as shorthand for that cue).

It is intended for general usage outside of Lost in Space, like "Jump the shark" is used outside of "Happy Days," and not just for use within the context of "Lost in Space," which no one in their right mind watches anymore.

Please read my full post and not just the thread title.


Congrats. I'm with you on this. It perfectly sums up the concept.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2017 - 4:16 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I also read it, and decided you're a few decades behind.

I am highly impressed by your decisions. Please share more of your insights with us.


The poster's username is "Joe 1956"; he knows all about being "a few decades behind."

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2017 - 4:46 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I read the post, but didnt get it (as a generalization). If you can get a celebrity to use it, all the google hits searching for an explanation will surely convince Websters to add it to the dictionary.

I think there are a lot of celebrities on the list, so I'm sure it will catch on. wink


It seems like it's alot easier to coin a phrase now with the internet. Nevertheless, it's not a slam-dunk. I remember watching Tom Snyder interview Charles Manson for TV (when I was a kid in the 1970s), and him saying, "C'mon, Charlie, get off your space shuttle." Only the absurdity of the context and metaphor which I'd never heard before or since, as well as Snyder's pompous attempt to coin a phrase, was memorable. Sort of like Rumsfeld's little bits of wartime wisdom which sound like something out of Dr. Strangelove.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2017 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Would it be acceptable if this phrase was used when referring to pop songs heard in films and TV or would that require a separate phrase (and subsequently, a separate thread)?

You mean like how songs from The Greatest American Hero are totally from that show and not the terrible cover versions they actually are?


I watched that show during its original run. I was about 10 at the time. Having said that, I would refrain from watching that series as an adult (and I say this as a Robert Culp fan), regardless of any music replacement.

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2017 - 6:59 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

This is essentially 'Adaptation Displacement':
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AdaptationDisplacement

(Though perhaps it's closer to the specific music version on that site, 'Covered Up': http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CoveredUp)

 
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