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 Posted:   Jan 15, 2017 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

I read that article with an open mind, but I have to say that I find some of those quotes scary.

Which ones specifically? Sorry for my ignorance/Naïvité if that was supposed to be self-explanatory.


Isaac, the specific quote which I found most... perhaps "alarming" (?) was actually already alluded to by trstnvnk a couple of posts above your own. It's where director Bill Purple says,

"...there's no pressure. You can do something musically, and if it bombs or blips he's not going to get hell for it. And if it's great, then great. If he wants to go write a song, he knows the moment he does that it becomes this promotional giant machine."

Now, I imagine he's talking about the ideas stage, when the musicians are just chipping away on their instruments trying to get ideas - as opposed to the end result, but it still sounds to me a terribly nonchalant approach. Howard L's link to the moviemusic thread is relevant too, especially the quotes from Stewart Copeland and some of the content of Lou Goldberg's response.

The thing is, Timberlake's score may indeed work. Why wouldn't it? But I still think that it will do no favours in promoting the understanding of film music as an art. It's been said before, but literally anyone could do a "score" for a film. Everyone reading this could do it, if we're talking about creating a little background ambience. I think that's why film music is the most misunderstood art. Many films today don't even need music.

For a film to be any good at all, a good director is absolutely fundamental. And the screenplay ought to be written by someone who has a certain degree of control over literary structures. Oh, and the director of photography should know which end of the camera to look through. People with skills are needed there. But you could record a chimpanzee slapping a synthesizer, or even just pulling at tree branches, and modify that sound as the score for your film. Or just do without the chimp altogether. Can you imagine the same thing happening when it comes to any other aspect of film-making? Costume designers, make-up artists, canteen staff and drivers. Vitally important. But the chimp doing the music may as well just be an afterthought.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2017 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

Actually, I think the article is very comforting. Director Purple also says:

“I knew I was in good hands because he was immediately scared,” the director said. “And he’s not a guy that’s ever afraid of anything. He’s the most confident person you’ve ever met. But he was frightened, because it was something new. But I know that, creatively, that’s a good space to be in.”

Timberlake obviously understands he's not in the same territory of his usual turf. His wording maybe crude (especially the script-as-lyrics-metaphore) and his examples may be easy (E.T. and Peter and the Wolf) but it points to an understanding what filmmusic is. And what it's supposed to do.

And that sample is lovely. To me, this glass is half-full.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2017 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

For this film, he will deliver a score that the filmmakers are looking for. Whether we like it is totally irrelevant as it really is in all cases to be honest.

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 Posted:   Jan 15, 2017 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

It's just something to satisfy his ego, nothing more.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2017 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

It's just something to satisfy his ego, nothing more.

What are you basing this on?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2017 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

It's just something to satisfy his ego, nothing more.

What are you basing this on?


Does Timberlake know how to score a film?

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2017 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)


 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2017 - 3:11 AM   
 By:   Randy Watson   (Member)

It's just something to satisfy his ego, nothing more.

What are you basing this on?


Does Timberlake know how to score a film?


Did Danny Elfman when Tim Burton asked him to score PeeWee? Or Carter Burwell when he was asked to score Blood Simple? And Trevor Rabin when he scored The Glimmer Man? And what made John Williams or Jerry Goldsmith qualified to score films?

 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2017 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

JT also scored this brief but very catchy theme - I'm sure you know it.

I can't wait to hear what he comes up with, he's a melody man - and I imagine we'll get some great themes!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2017 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Timberlake only sang that McDonald's ditty.
Pharrell Williams and 3 others* actually wrote it.

*credited to Batoy, Tortora, Forberger, and Pharrell Williams.

 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2017 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Timberlake only sang that McDonald's ditty.
Pharrell Williams and 3 others actually wrote it.


My bad - thanks for correcting me. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2017 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Hahaha..thats great...exactly brings it to the point!!!!
A Mc Donalds..badabadada jingle...
oh man...music can suck....

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2017 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Always intriguing how easy someone can make money once you are famous.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2017 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Always intriguing how easy someone can make money once you are famous.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2017 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Always intriguing how easy someone can make money once you are famous.

 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2017 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)


Does Timberlake know how to score a film?

Did Trevor Rabin when he scored The Glimmer Man?


Does Rabin know how to score a movie now? razz

 
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