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 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 10:23 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

My subject heading is the headline for this story in the print edition of today's L. A. Times. The headline online isn't nearly as lively:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-justin-timberlake-composer-20170111-story.html

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   daretodream   (Member)

This should be interesting!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

I read that article with an open mind, but I have to say that I find some of those quotes scary.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   Randy Watson   (Member)

“I think Trent got the bug in [Justin’s] ears,” said Purple. “Because there’s no pressure. You can do something musically, and if it bombs or blips, he’s not going to get hell for it.

Obviously they've never visited these boards before.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Well, he has won two Emmys in the Music and Lyrics category.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 11:45 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I can't read it without disabling ad-block.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   Isaac The Red   (Member)

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 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I thought it was going to be ZOOBA!

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   pzfan   (Member)

Witness the magic for yourself.


It doesn't sound that bad. Reminds me of something from Christopher Young.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

I'm prepared to go in with an open mind—and will delightfully tear the score to shreds if it doesn't deliver! Muahahaha!

But seriously, I'm excited to hear what Timberlake produces for his first orchestral film score. Maybe it will be great, maybe it will be adequate, maybe it will suck. But it will be interesting to experience.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

In some ways, he said, writing dramatic score was similar to songwriting — “the script and action, those are basically your lyrics” — but also fundamentally different.

Ha, brought up that correlation the other day in another thread but had brought it up many years ago in a thread I can't seem to locate. Anyway, he seems sincere and humble enough in relation to something that's coming from his heart. I too have an open mind (as opposed to summarily dismissing the whole thing) for that reason.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 4:27 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

Out of curiosity, does anyone remember the reaction amongst score fans when Hans Zimmer or Danny Elfman starting scoring films? I ask out of curiosity... I was too young to notice film scores (other than Star Wars) at that point.

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Out of curiosity, does anyone remember the reaction amongst score fans when Hans Zimmer or Danny Elfman starting scoring films? I ask out of curiosity... I was too young to notice film scores (other than Star Wars) at that point.

Chris


I wasn't around at the time, but I doubt Hans Zimmer's transition into the film world was noticed by anyone. He worked with a variety of new wave bands during the 70s and early 80s, then worked for some time with an established film composer before receiving his first major solo Hollywood assignment in '88: Rain Man. Prior to that I don't think he was exactly "known" for either his new wave music or his film music.

Elfman, however, is probably a completely different story.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Elfman, however, is probably a completely different story.

It took at least a decade for film score fans to let go of their prejudices against Elfman. And when they liked his music, they decided he wasn't really writing it.

As for this Timberlake score, the one cue presented here (completely out of context) sounds absolutely fine. Can't say that it's a particularly fresh voice, but nothing wrong with it, either.

And remember, there was a time when John Williams was just some session jazz pianist.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 5:35 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

An Elfman aside from back a ways but somewhat relevant per my comment on "sincerity" re Timberlake:

http://www.moviemusic.com/mb/Forum1/HTML/001927.html

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2017 - 5:45 PM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

JW made quite a few pop jazz recordings in the early 60s before going all in on Neo Classical/Film Composition so its not like there isn't a precedent here.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2017 - 2:47 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

JW made quite a few pop jazz recordings in the early 60s before going all in on Neo Classical/Film Composition so its not like there isn't a precedent here.

Always assuming that the musical educations offered by Julliard and The Mickey Mouse Club are broadly equivalent smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2017 - 3:12 AM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

JW made quite a few pop jazz recordings in the early 60s before going all in on Neo Classical/Film Composition so its not like there isn't a precedent here.

Always assuming that the musical educations offered by Julliard and The Mickey Mouse Club are broadly equivalent smile


I believe that's actually Juilliard's latest marketing slogan: "Just about as good as the Mickey Mouse Club. Apply today!"

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2017 - 4:29 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

JW made quite a few pop jazz recordings in the early 60s before going all in on Neo Classical/Film Composition so its not like there isn't a precedent here.

It's a little different- one pop music and jazz are very different disciplines and Two Williams was an arranger for both which meant he had a solid grounding in orchestration, harmony, counterpoint etc to work as said arranger in that era. The transition for him to orchestral film scores was not a huge one.

That said, I like the track in the link from Timberlake. It's not orchestral by any means and even the article states that it's focssuing on guitars with a bit of strings (that he admitted getting help on arranging for by a friend who's a film composer).

There's so many cases of people migrating to scoring films from other styles and various levels of formal education that it shouldn't really come as a surprise to anyone anymore. Film music can encompass a huge array of approaches from ambient to groove based to orchestral. For this film, he will deliver a score that the filmmakers are looking for. Whether we like it is totally irrelevant as it really is in all cases to be honest.

I wish Timberlake well on this new endeavour. In time I'm sure his scoring skills will grow just like Elfman's did (though we must remember that Elfman's influences were guys like Herrmann and Prokofiev- pretty good orchestral film scoring role models).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2017 - 5:27 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Sounds like one of those royalty free cds...sorry

 
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