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The old Varese release was 30:15 in length.
The score as presented in the film is 56:02.
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Now that both of the Basil Poledouris-scored "RoboCop" movies have expanded editions, is an expanded "RoboCop 2" possible? Was all the music in the movie (which is way too violent for me to re-watch) on the Varese Sarabande CD?
I know a lot of people hate this score, but I really like it a lot.
I actually tend to like Rosenman's score. It's just the choral burst of "Robocop!" that makes me cringe!
If an expanded edition was released though, I'd definitely pick it up.
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I think RoboCop 2 is great, I like it just as much as the first one, including the "Robocop" Chorus.. never bothered me... top score, would certainly be in the boat for an expanded release.
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Me too, Nicolai. I have a pretty high tolerance for goofiness when it appeals to me, and the chorus does. I thought it actually carried through the satire of Robocop 1 much better than did the movie itself.
Schiffy is right, there's really nothing new here, as frankly there often is not much of from score to score - Rosenman is the kind of composer who seems to be writing just one enormous musical work. But it works for me, and I'd love an expanded release of this one.
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Maybe Robert Townson's not a fan of Leonard Rosenman? (The label's never released anything else by him, as far as I can see.)
Well, they have released more on their "Twilight Zone" (one score) and "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" (two scores) compilations. And most of Rosenman's major scores were done before Varèse's bread and butter became contemporary film scores.
True that Rosenman did not score many mainstream features throughout the 1980s and receded from this niche area into semi-retirement after 1991.
Nevertheless, none of Rosenman's vintage film music from late-1950s, 1960s or '70s had ever surfaced onto Varese Club CDs (whilst music by Waxman, North, Alfred Newman, Elmer B., etc. were released with regularity).
[consider also that Rosenman's episodes of TZ and AHH were bundled with music by others for those shows and that they did not constitute all-Rosenman album programs]
Despite relations with studios such as Universal, Paramount & 20th Century Fox, Varese issued neither The Car nor the unused The Last Hard Men - both of which eventually arrived onto discs via Intrada.
Additionally, there seems to be little or no interest in the number of early Rosenman scores recorded at Warner Bros. during the '50s & '60s.
Seems as though Rosenman will be remembered (if at all) by his attachment to a trio of special-effects era (post 1977 that is) movies: Robocop 2, Star Trek IV plus the '78 The Lord of the Rings.
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When they get around to doing RoboCop 2, all I ask is ONE THING...
Do a Version of the End Credits (Which opens the current album) without the choir singing "Robocop"...
It's the one thing that makes a really good piece of music not very enjoyable for my personal tastes.
This would make a wonderful bonus track.
Just my two cents...
Ford A. Thaxton
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I'd go the other way around -- the singing is the end credits is the bonus track, and the one removing it is used in its palce. I don't care about film presentation or some such thing -- that annoying choir needs to be relegated to the end of the disk where it can be forgotten.
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It was Rosenman's decision to have it there, and it might not have been the best choice but...
Well, he's no longer around, and if this wrong can be righted, it should be.
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Well, since you asked:
1. You don't know if that was the original intent of the composer.
2. Even if it was, that was for the old album -- it's not something that every CD producer has to adhere to in perpetuity.
And finally, 3: It's wrong on a musical and listening experience level. I didn't argue at all about Rosenman's prefereance, nor would I -- I'm here for the eventual deluxe release.
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