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 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

THE MAG 7 remains Horner's final film score, but as most of you know, he had several projects in the pipeline when he died.

One of them was the Norwegian film DEN 12. MANN (THE 12TH MAN), directed by Harald Zwart. It tells the story of WW2 hero Jan Baalsrud and the cat-and-mouse hunt between him and nazis during gruelling conditions in the Norwegian mountainside. In 1957, the story was made into the Oscar-nominated film NI LIV. This new one is a remake of that film.

Zwart has said he had several conversations with Horner about the project (the two having previously collaborated on THE KARATE KID movie with Jaden Smith), and that it was all but a confirmed assignment. But with him now gone, I wonder who will score it? And will the new composer apply "Horner"-ish elements? [edit: Christophe Beck has been confirmed as the composer]

Time will tell. The movie won't premiere untill next year, but in the meantime you can see this brand new teaser trailer:

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Stéphane Humez   (Member)

Maybe Zwart will stick to Atli Örvarsson...

I mean Zwart hired him for Karate Kid (before production kicked him out for Horner) and then hired him back for Mortal Instruments...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Maybe Zwart will stick to Atli Örvarsson...

Could be, although Atli has moved back to Iceland now and is weary of more traditional "Hollywood"-inspired fare. He prefers to do smaller movies (from Iceland and elsewhere), it seems.

But yeah -- a possibility. In his early career, Zwart worked regularly with Norwegian composer Trond Bjerknes, but I'm not sure if the "break" was fruitful when Zwart went Hollywood and didn't bring his old composer friend. So the likelihood of them reuniting is perhaps slim.

Anyways, I don't usually like to participate in speculation games, but this one intrigues me a bit. It will be interesting to follow the production details as they're revealed.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 4:00 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

And before Atli on Mortal Instruments there was Yared, so there's another possibility.

 
 Posted:   Oct 2, 2016 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

10 years ago, Zwart (and his co-director) worked with Kjetil Bjerkestrand on Lange Flate Ballær.

The 12th Man would be the perfect opportunity for Kjetil to return to the Veiviseren-territory, 30 years later.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2016 - 3:15 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

10 years ago, Zwart (and his co-director) worked with Kjetil Bjerkestrand on Lange Flate Ballær.

The 12th Man would be the perfect opportunity for Kjetil to return to the Veiviseren-territory, 30 years later.


Funny you should say that. I was in a jury meeting with Kjetil just last night, and we discussed his possible return to film. He's worked on various film scores as arranger in later years, but he's not done much since 2000 as composer. He's more interested in concert music, theatre music and various forms of popular music these days (as musician, arranger or composer), but he was open to do more film, if he was allowed more room to do what he wants. With his deep love of Norwegian music, I could certainly see him do a film like this. Alas, I think Zwart will go for a bigger, international composer.

(by the way -- and on a personal note -- I have a cameo in LANGE FLATE BALLÆR).

 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2016 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

10 years ago, Zwart (and his co-director) worked with Kjetil Bjerkestrand on Lange Flate Ballær.

The 12th Man would be the perfect opportunity for Kjetil to return to the Veiviseren-territory, 30 years later.


Funny you should say that. I was in a jury meeting with Kjetil just last night, and we discussed his possible return to film. He's worked on various film scores as arranger in later years, but he's not done much since 2000 as composer. He's more interested in concert music, theatre music and various forms of popular music these days (as musician, arranger or composer), but he was open to do more film, if he was allowed more room to do what he wants. With his deep love of Norwegian music, I could certainly see him do a film like this. Alas, I think Zwart will go for a bigger, international composer.

(by the way -- and on a personal note -- I have a cameo in LANGE FLATE BALLÆR).


According to imdb, he has done 37 Og Et Halvt (Bøhren/Åserud are also credited, I have never found out if they actually collaborated with KB), Deadline Torp, Karlsson På Taket and Øyenstikker since 2000, plus Lange Flate Ballær. But nothing the last 10 years.

I still haven't bought this one, with one brief beautiful Bjerkestrand/Arve Tellefsen-track on it:
https://www.discogs.com/Prepple-Houmb-Morten-Abel-Hodet-Over-Vannet/release/1002083

You should update imdb with your cameo...

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2016 - 6:10 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

You should update imdb with your cameo...

Good point. Done! Takes some time before it's processed, I think.

When I asked him about his last film score, he said KARLSSON PÅ TAKET. Maybe he forgot about BALLÆR.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2016 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

They should hire the zither player who scored the Third Man.

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2017 - 5:42 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Film Music Reporter reported today Christophe Beck got it.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2017 - 1:59 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Film Music Reporter reported today Christophe Beck got it.

That is correct. The producer of the film told me this last week, during a festival here in Norway.

The film looks rather bad, but hopefully Beck will be able to make something out of it. He's a good composer now and then.

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2017 - 6:35 AM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

Film Music Reporter reported today Christophe Beck got it.

That is correct. The producer of the film told me this last week, during a festival here in Norway.

The film looks rather bad, but hopefully Beck will be able to make something out of it. He's a good composer now and then.


Doesn't that make him a good composer period if he manages to turns in a score you like now and then?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2017 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'd say it makes him an on/off composer. At least to me.

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2017 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)

I'd say it makes him an on/off composer. At least to me.

I agree with this!

I´m not a big fan of all his movie scores.
But the work he did for Buffy is perfect! Very different to how he scores most of his movies.
Almost like it`s two different persons.

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2017 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

For me there are three Beck's:

1. The "Buffy the Vampire slayer" one.
2. The one who does some mediocre orchestral works one.
3. And the one who does these meandering cues that sound like jam sessions, such as "Looking for Superman" (a documentary about children trying to get into good schools).


I'm surprised this thread has gotten 1,002 hits so far. Who knew so many people would be interested.

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2017 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)

For me there are three Beck's:

1. The "Buffy the Vampire slayer" one.
2. The one who does some mediocre orchestral works one.
3. And the one who does these meandering cues that sound like jam sessions, such as "Looking for Superman" (a documentary about children trying to get into good schools).


Lol, you're actually very right about this!
I wonder why he never makes "Buffy"-type of score anymore.

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2017 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Film Music Reporter reported today Christophe Beck got it.

Wow. Uninspired choice.

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2017 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Well, at least it wasn't' some old white guy like Faltermeyer.

 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2017 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Well, at least it wasn't' some old white guy like Faltermeyer.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2017 - 3:38 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I really like some of those 'mediocre orchestral' scores that Beck did/does, especially a whole raft of them that remain unreleased, from the days when he was becoming the new David Newman.
Some great work in BRING IT ON, INTERSTATE 60, JUST MARRIED, CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN, WITHOUT A PADDLE, WHAT HAPPENS IN VEGAS, I LOVE YOU BETH COOPER, POST GRAD for instance, all of which (like a lot of Newman's comedy/romantic scoring) have never had any, or much of a score release.
I think the 'many faces of Beck' thing is something I like most about him.
It's good to be versatile and able to bring different facets of your abilities to the variety of films that are scored.
I think he's a good choice and look forward to hearing what he brings to this new (to him) type of film/genre.
The director (based on his previous works) seems to prefer a more bolder, thematic score over what we generally hear these days, so hopefully he will unleash Beck without too many shackles.

 
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