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 Posted:   Aug 31, 2016 - 7:42 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I was "beyond" surprised when this film was released and there wasn't a proper review thread for it. The silence at this board for a popular sci-fi franchise is quite odd.

Post your thoughts on Star Trek Beyond. What did you think of the film?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2016 - 7:44 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

It is an entertaining movie, somewhat of a move back to Trek origins, at least more so than Into Darkness.
It had some light hearted moments and some pretty good action. As summer movies go, I thought it was pretty good.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2016 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

It was better than INTO DARKNESS (not hard!!).
I didn't enjoy it as much as that new STAR TREK 2009 reboot/thingy they did first though.
What it did bring home to me, is that I'm all Star Trek'd out.
Much like the franchise fatigue I got with the LORD OF THE RINGS/HOBBIT films and I'm starting to get with the whole MARVEL thing, I've hit a wall with these ongoing series of films and I don't know if they're good or bad anymore, cos I'm basically bored of the whole shebang while I watch them.
As a life-long STAR WARS fan (I kinda tolerated the prequels), it will be interesting to see if the constant Lucasfilm/Disney blasts that ensue will erode my love of that too, as time goes by.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2016 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I quite enjoyed it - certainly far more than the previous two attempts by Abrahms.

It still wasn't wholly satisfying - the plot was pretty weak and the villain rather dull ( seriously,mcsntnthey come up with a villain who has some other motivation than hat in the Federation? That's 3 for 3!) and there were some pretty stupid moments (chief amongst which is How Uhura deduces the true identity of the baddie) but the action and characters are well handled, there is a fair amount of humour and the production design is superb, especially the Yorktown star base which is fabulous (although why do they need speedy monorails when you see people transport throughout the base?).

The cast is as ever, very good (although I still hate Spock - nobody can play him like Nimoy did) and I could watch a whole movie of just Urban's McCoy, he is that good.

I even quite liked the score (bit of a first for me to even actually notice a Giacchino score as feel his music is generally very unmemorable) especially the scene in which the Enterprise docks at Yorktown.

The only thing that struck me was that the scene of the Enterprise crashing wasn't anywhere near as well handled as the nearly identical scene in Generations. It just goes to show that CGI, for all its merits, is still not as good as a well executed practical effect with physical models.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2016 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

For Bill's benefit, could you make the thread title a bit more specific? smile

Personally, I didn't like it quite as much as the last one, and nowhere near as much as the one before, but a future repeat viewing might of course change that. The pairing of Spock and Bones in several scenes added greatly to the character of the film, but I'm afraid I started to suffer from an over-abundance of Scottie. There was more Pegg than a pirate convention.

And when will they move away from the idea of building Death Stars? Wait...

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2016 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Gotta agree with Mike J. The ship crash on the planet was not anything nearly as good as the crash in Generations. The practical effect ship crash in Generations remains very effective and visceral and the 'more advanced' CG effect ship crash in Trek2016, geez 22 years later, is inferior.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2016 - 4:32 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

For Bill's benefit, could you make the thread title a bit more specific? smile

Personally, I didn't like it quite as much as the last one, and nowhere near as much as the one before, but a future repeat viewing might of course change that. The pairing of Spock and Bones in several scenes added greatly to the character of the film, but I'm afraid I started to suffer from an over-abundance of Scottie. There was more Pegg than a pirate convention.

And when will they move away from the idea of building Death Stars? Wait...


One of the things where the film lacked logic is why Idris Elba needed the Death-Starey sort of thing in the first place, given that he had a whole swarm of drones which could penetrate shields and rip the Enterprise to shreds.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2016 - 6:58 PM   
 By:   Matt S.   (Member)

I enjoyed the film quite a bit, in fact it might be my favorite of the reboot movies. For the first time I felt like the new actors truly owned their roles now. With the first two movies, it almost felt like they were playing caricatures of the original series crew, and "overacted" all of their various quirks and mannerisms for unnecessary comic relief, particularly with respect to the accents (Scotty and Chekov primarily). I didn't get that this time around....while I agree with an earlier poster that there was a LOT of Scotty in this one (no doubt because Simon Pegg wrote it, and gave himself a meaty part), I don't think it took away from anything. I thought Pegg did a fine job as Scotty in this one. There was plenty of exasperated wisecracking, but I felt like it was earned by now. The dialogue and banter between the crew felt easy and natural, and was genuinely funny ("You gave your girlfriend a tracking device?" Long pause. "That was not my intention.")

I thought Krall as a villain was OK, though I wish they had the time to explore his motivations more fully; the twist of his true identity at the end came rather too quick, but I guess they had to finish things up so the movie wouldn't be too long.

Some continuity issues aside (is the USS Franklin...which was launched AFTER the founding of the Federation in the 2160s...supposed to be LESS advanced than the Enterprise NX-01? Did I hear them right that Franklin was Starfleet's first warp FOUR vessel? I only saw the movie once so I may have missed that particular line of dialogue...), I thought they tied the storyline in nicely with the rest of the franchise, both Prime and Kelvin timelines.

With respect to the crash scene, yeah I agree it wasn't that impressive, but then again I find it impossible to believe that the ship would have been in ANY shape to even make it to the surface...the nacelles were severed, the ship was cut in half....there had to be thousands of hull breaches by the swarm ships. There's no way there would have been any power for life support or shields for the hull to survive an uncontrolled atmospheric reentry. It would have burned up. Oh well, just one of those times you need put rational thought aside and enjoy the flick.

I also agree with the others that Giacchino did a great job with the score, especially with the Yorktown Station scene. (Yorktown itself also blew me away; though it almost looks TOO huge and advanced to fit in with the TOS timeline).

If I was to give the movie a star rating, I'd probably go with four out of five.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2016 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   ScottyM   (Member)



One of the things where the film lacked logic is why Idris Elba needed the Death-Starey sort of thing in the first place, given that he had a whole swarm of drones which could penetrate shields and rip the Enterprise to shreds.


Because sooner or later, those things'll be blown up (Kirk and his people did it at the end). Obviously there was a way to stop them. Also, Krall can take out a larger number of people more quickly using the bio weapon than by having to direct the swarm to attack. It's easier to wipe out a starbase using the bio weapon than spending hours chipping away at it.

Think of it as having the most powerful battle fleet in the world, yet still having nuclear bombs.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2016 - 1:47 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

Like many other of this year's blockbusters, I found the film to be mediocre. I think it is the weakest of the new Trek films, though still entertaining. The action is good, but a bit choppy for my taste, I liked the humor, and the Spock and McCoy scenes are the best. Agreed about the starbase design being spectacular, and I enjoyed Giacchino's score, although it wasn't until after seeing the film that the score started clicking with me. As a minor geeky point, I really loved how they handled the universal translator. It was the first interpretation that actually made sense rather than how the universal translator is typically handled, which is everyone suddenly speaks English.

The story is a bit of a mess, and I thought that Idris Elba was wasted as a disappointing villain. To be fair though, a noteworthy villain is less important in Star Trek, as what makes the series work is the crew coming together to solve a problem rather than the problem itself. The threat is certainly menacing enough, but unmemorable.

I appreciated that they want to give the characters story arcs, but most of them here fall flat. Kirk's story in particular was weak, as the film begins with the crew half way through the 5 year mission, and Kirk is burnt out and wants to get promoted rather than continue on the mission. Normally this is where events in the story would force Kirk to question why he wants to quit being captain, and based on what he experiences, he ultimately concludes that he prefers being a captain. Unfortunately, nothing happens in the film that suggests why he changes his mind (other than the needs of many future films requiring Kirk be captain outweighing his desire that he be made admiral).

The movie starts out slow, and it takes a while to get going, but once it does, it is a fun film, but never particularly great. It doesn't sound like this film performed well at the box office, so who knows where things go from here? As I believe most of the cast is signed on for another film, and Star Trek is as popular as it is, I am sure Paramount will make at least one more film. Hopefully the next one will be better!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2016 - 8:19 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

My mom and I loved the film! I'm looking forward to getting it on Blu-ray 3D in a few weeks!smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2016 - 8:23 AM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

It boggles me that a well made, well reviewed, and fun film like STAR TREK BEYOND is fighting to break even world wide while dreck like SUICIDE SQUAD is cleaning up despite being almost universally panned and a prime specimen of solid intestinal waste.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2016 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Oy. I thought it was the weakest of the nuTrek -- none of which I particularly love. I thought many of the effects were a step down from what we've seen before -- often very cartoonish and video game-ish. I keep getting the feeling that Silar is barely concealing a smirk -- not very Spock-like. I didn't think the Fast/Furious shenanigans fit well with Trek. The villain was weak and his story made even less sense than his motivation. The ships were virtually indestructible, weirdly. The plan to defeat the swarm was okay I guess, but the swarm's spontaneous combustion didn't really make any sense. It was bizarre that Carol Marcus had been dropped after making her join the crew in the last one. It was weird that they started with the characters being burnt out after the previous flick (I guess we're to imagine they were just having TOS weekly adventures since then). It was weird that it started with a Galaxy Quest sort of gag, and then ended as the summer's second blockbuster to rip a scene from The Empire Strikes Back. It was a weird decision to make Bones a fighter pilot. It was a weird decision to so totally waste Idris Elba.

Sofia Boutella was the best she's ever been, though.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2016 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

For a franchise rebooted for the sole purpose of bringing life and energy back into the property, Beyond was beyond uninspiring. Once again ripping off ideas from previous Star Trek films, and adding nothing good in the process.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2016 - 2:50 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

For a franchise rebooted for the sole purpose of bringing life and energy back into the property, Beyond was beyond uninspiring. Once again ripping off ideas from previous Star Trek films, and adding nothing good in the process.

I completely agree. In fact, after this one, I've sworn off seeing anymore theatrically.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2016 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

I enjoyed it more upon my second viewing.

How it should have ended did an accurate video too poking some fun at it.


I think what bothered me the most about the movie is that they had to wait until Idris Elba turned back into a black man before they could kill him, not really sure why he needed to die to be honest. Would have been better if Kirk saved him and just the flesh eating space virus got sucked into space. But what do I know?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2016 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Oh dear not another Duck-Egg been on the decline now for a while, it needs to move on now start making some new franchise Star Trek ? leave it for TV.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2016 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I bought the 3d version and the Target bonus disc exclusive. And the Walmart version with the Enterprise, Franklin and the Swarm ship.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2016 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Haven't been to watch a Star Trek film at the Cinema since Patrick Stewart it was on the decline/slide then I wait for SKY TV to watch it then I turn it off.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2016 - 4:22 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I really loved the first Star Trek with Chris Pine. I loved the next Star Trek Into Darkness. I liked but didn't love Star Trek Beyond. I get tired of sequels forgetting the adage, "Less is More." (I.E. the Pirates if the Caribbean and Transformer series.) Star Trek Beyond, I felt, lost some of its endearing humanity and humor as a ton of kitchen sinks were tossed; however, I'm still loving this series.

 
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