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 Posted:   Sep 26, 2015 - 6:44 PM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 26

This post covers news that was missed during the movie/tv news hiatus.

BLADE RUNNER 2---director Denis Villeneauve said the sequel will answer the question about Rick Deckard being a human or a replicant, "I love mystery. I love shadows. I love doubts. I would just want to say to the fans that we will take care of that mystery. I will take care of it."
Ridley Scott said in 2007, "Yes, he's a replicant. He was always a replicant." Harrison Ford has said he thinks Deckard is a human.





JACK RYAN---untitled tv series underway featuring Jack Ryan as a young CIA analyst after an accident ended his career in the Marines. Carlton Cuse (LOST) is the creator.





IN THE LINE OF FIRE---NBC tv series underway based on the 1993 Clint Eastwood Secret Service movie. The tv series will have a male Secret Service agent teaming up with a female agent to investigate cases. The creators are the CSI team of Carol Mendelsohn and Josh Berman.





TAKEN---NBC tv series underway based on the Liam Neeson movie franchise. The tv series will be a prequel to the movies focusing on Bryan Mills as a CIA agent.





MOREAU---CBS tv series underway based on the HG Wells novel THE ISLAND OF DOCTOR MOREAU. The series will be set in the present with the island's bestial experiments being conducted by Dr. Katherine Moreau. Phillip Iscove (SLEEPY HOLLOW) is the creator.

20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA---Bryan Singer (X-MEN) said his next movie will be based on the classic Jules Verne novel, "This will be an epic and emotional adventure for all ages! An adventure very dear to my heart".

GAME OF THRONES---Essie Davis (THE BABADOOK) has joined the cast as an actress in a traveling theater group in Season 6.

ALIEN: PARADISE LOST---Ridley Scott commented on if PARADISE LOST will connect the PROMETHEUS universe to the ALIEN universe, "Yes, but it won't be in the next one. It will be in the one after this one or maybe even a fourth film before we get back into the ALIEN franchise..."
He added, "The whole point of it is to explain the ALIEN franchise and to explain the how and why of the creation of the Alien itself. I always thought of the Alien as kind of a piece of bacterial warfare. I always thought that that original ship, which I call the Croissant, was a battleship, holding these biomechanoid creatures that were all about destruction."

THE WALKING DEAD---British actor Tom Payne will play Paul "Jesus" Monroe in Season 6. Also, speculation is that a casting call for a character named ""Orin" for Season 6's final episode is really a cover for the villain Negan.

MEG---director Eli Roth said the prehistoric shark in this movie based on the novel will be CGI, "We just turned in the script to the studio...I'm doing some character and creature designs...The thing is with Meg, the size of the creature, it sort of becomes impractical to do it practically, but I've seen how they've done the whale in IN THE HEART OF THE SEA. They showed me footage and they're like, 'Before you judge CG, take a look at this,' and I was like, 'Oh my god.' The whale in IN THE HEART OF THE SEA looks so good. I was like, 'All right, we're good.'
He added, "I wouldn't do the movie unless I believed the technology was there to do it and the great thing is with Warner Bros and the team that we're doing [it] with, we're gonna have the resources to do it right."

WONDER WOMAN---Eva Green (CASINO ROYALE) and Sean Bean (GAME OF THRONES) are in talks to play villains in the Gal Gadot movie. Green would play Circe the Sorceress, and Bean would play Ares, the God of War.

GOTHAM---it was confirmed the Court of Owls will be in Season 2.

CHIPs---Kristen Bell (VERONICA MARS) is joining the cast of the movie based on the tv series. Bell's husband, Dax Shepard, is the movie's co-star/writer/director.

SCREAM QUEENS---the premiere drew a disappointing 4 million viewers.

GHOSTBUSTERS---Annie Potts is returning in a cameo as a hotel clerk.

NEW GIRL---Megan Fox (TRANSFORMERS) is joining the cast in Season 6.

JACK REACHER---Patrick Heusinger is in talks to play the sequel's villain. Tom Cruise and Cobie Smulders star.

TWIN PEAKS---Amanda Seyfried and Balthazar Getty have joined the cast of the sequel series.

THE COMMUTER---Liam Neeson stars in this movie about a businessman commuting to home when he accidentally becomes involved in a criminal conspiracy.

WEAVEWORLD---CW tv series underway based on the Clive Barker novel.

THE GIRL IN THE RAIN---Chris Evans and Jared Leto are in talks to co-star with Emily Blunt in this movie based on the novel.

BLADE---Wesley Snipes commented on returning for a possible sequel, "There's always a possibility, you know. It's in Marvel's hands. They're controlling the pace and the flow with that. Conversations have been good. They see the value in it. We see the value in it."
He added about returning as Blade in an Avengers sequel, "That would be interesting. I mean, I know it's in the comic book. It would be interesting to see where they would place him and where he really would fit in. He's got to bite somebody. I don't know who he's going to bite... We'll see how it goes. I don't really know what's going to happen to it yet."

VIA LA MADNESS---Jason Statham will star in this action/comedy tv series based on the book. Daniel Craig played the same anonymous character in LAYER CAKE.

BBC ONE---upcoming projects include:
1. TROY-FALL OF THE CITY---a miniseries about the Trojan War from a Trojan family's perspective.
2. THE CORMORAN STRIKE MYSTERIES---series based on the JK Rowling novels about a veteran who becomes a private detective.
3. TO SIR WITH LOVE---tv movie based on the novel.
4. RUSH OF BLOOD---three-part miniseries based on the novel about three couples who return from a Florida vacation and discover one of them is a murderer.
5. DICKENSIAN---20-part series starring Stephen Rea as a "LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN-type" literary hero.
6. THE LAST POST---eight-part miniseries based on the novel set in 1965 Aden about a British counter-terrorism unit.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2015 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

BLADE RUNNER 2

I need to be educated, obviously.
How the hell could Rick Deckard be a replicant?
Is there ANY evidence in Blade Runner to suggest it???

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2015 - 7:27 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

BLADE RUNNER 2

I need to be educated, obviously.
How the hell could Rick Deckard be a replicant?
Is there ANY evidence in Blade Runner to suggest it???


Nope! Just another revisionist by the creator.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2015 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   BobJ   (Member)

BLADE RUNNER 2

I need to be educated, obviously.
How the hell could Rick Deckard be a replicant?
Is there ANY evidence in Blade Runner to suggest it???



Yes. In the director's cut Deckard dreams of a unicorn. Gaff leaves a unicorn on Deckard's doorstep at the end. This parallels the scene where Deckard tells Rachel about the spider living outside her window.

I also never liked the idea of Rick being a replicant. It robs the final scene between him and Batty of it's power.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2015 - 8:59 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Like I said, revisionist. Even if it was true whats the point? Such a twist robs the story at its very core.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2015 - 10:32 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

FYI, in one of our many Blade Runner topics, I asked if Deckard was a replicant, and a many FSMers jumped to say that he definitely was and gave a lot of supportive evidence. I wish I could find which thread people talked about that issue, but I can't find it. Shucks.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2015 - 11:19 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

FYI, in one of our many Blade Runner topics, I asked if Deckard was a replicant, and a many FSMers jumped to say that he definitely was and gave a lot of supportive evidence. I wish I could find which thread people talked about that issue, but I can't find it. Shucks.


I remember that thread.
(I was one of the proud few to say that there was no solid proof that he was a replicant-I'm firmly in the pro-human camp.)
At the time my opinion was basically what Brother Sol just said above--that Ridley Scott was just messing with us, probably just on a whim, knowing what a crapnado would follow from his fans.

ETA: I think the thread started out being concerned with the narration--can't recall exactly.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2015 - 2:36 AM   
 By:   Membership Expired   (Member)

SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 26

This post covers news that was missed during the movie/tv news hiatus.

BLADE RUNNER 2---director Denis Villeneauve said the sequel will answer the question about Rick Deckard being a human or a replicant, "I love mystery. I love shadows. I love doubts. I would just want to say to the fans that we will take care of that mystery. I will take care of it."
Ridley Scott said in 2007, "Yes, he's a replicant. He was always a replicant." Harrison Ford has said he thinks Deckard is a human.



If anything that quote indicates that he will preserve the mystery rather then solve it. Which would be the only way to go IMO. The answer regarding Deckard's true origin's isnt nearly as interesting as the question.

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2015 - 5:52 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

He has none of the physical traits of a replicant which are super strength and lack of exhaustion. This is the same kind of buffoonery Ron Moore pulled when he made four clearly human characters Cylons in BSG. Second Deckard was a washed up soulless man that found his humanity threw a replicant. Making him a replicant nullifies the characters emotional journey.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2015 - 7:04 AM   
 By:   Membership Expired   (Member)

He has none of the physical traits of a replicant which are super strength and lack of exhaustion. This is the same kind of buffoonery Ron Moore pulled when he made four clearly human characters Cylons in BSG. Second Deckard was a washed up soulless man that found his humanity threw a replicant. Making him a replicant nullifies the characters emotional journey.

Ridley Scott disagrees!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2015 - 7:31 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Of all the directors who could have made a cracking version of 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, Bryan Singer isn't one of them. He's not a terrible director but he isn't a very good one either. Journeyman is the best you could describe him. Fin her was once attached to his and he would have knocked it out of the park, but with Singer, I'm expecting something pretty bland (especially as he is writing the screenplay too).

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2015 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I want Deckard to be human but there's plenty of evidence to cite that he isn't. (Reflection in the eyes in his apartment, the old "fence" theory, etc)

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2015 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

He has none of the physical traits of a replicant which are super strength and lack of exhaustion. This is the same kind of buffoonery Ron Moore pulled when he made four clearly human characters Cylons in BSG. Second Deckard was a washed up soulless man that found his humanity threw a replicant. Making him a replicant nullifies the characters emotional journey.

Ridley Scott disagrees!


Yeah Ridley Scott changed and fucked up Blade Runner with impling that Deckard was a Replicant.
By doing so he robbed his own movie from the very soul it had with Deckard being a Blade Runner who virtually had no chance against the Replicants, but Batty sparred his life. Every Replicant had strength, but Deckard had not and only got lucky killing Leon and Priss (and that stripper who I can´t remember the name of) Wouldn´t Deckard have that strength too then?
No. Scott did this to provoce from an old movie because he could...

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2015 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Of all the directors who could have made a cracking version of 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, Bryan Singer isn't one of them. He's not a terrible director but he isn't a very good one either. Journeyman is the best you could describe him. Fin her was once attached to his and he would have knocked it out of the park, but with Singer, I'm expecting something pretty bland (especially as he is writing the screenplay too).

Proof Bryan Singer sucks:

X-Men
Superman Returns
(I can't believe WB didn't boot him when they saw what he was doing)
Jack the Giant Slayer

And Days of Future Past was a noticeable step back after First Class, which benefitted from Matthew Vaughn's superior direction.

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2015 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

He has none of the physical traits of a replicant which are super strength and lack of exhaustion. This is the same kind of buffoonery Ron Moore pulled when he made four clearly human characters Cylons in BSG. Second Deckard was a washed up soulless man that found his humanity threw a replicant. Making him a replicant nullifies the characters emotional journey.

Ridley Scott disagrees!


Yeah Ridley Scott changed and fucked up Blade Runner with impling that Deckard was a Replicant.
By doing so he robbed his own movie from the very soul it had with Deckard being a Blade Runner who virtually had no chance against the Replicants, but Batty sparred his life. Every Replicant had strength, but Deckard had not and only got lucky killing Leon and Priss (and that stripper who I can´t remember the name of) Wouldn´t Deckard have that strength too then?
No. Scott did this to provoce from an old movie because he could...


And all of this is exactly why I, for one, have absolutely no desire to see a Blade Runner sequel.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2015 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Of all the directors who could have made a cracking version of 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, Bryan Singer isn't one of them. He's not a terrible director but he isn't a very good one either. Journeyman is the best you could describe him. Fin her was once attached to his and he would have knocked it out of the park, but with Singer, I'm expecting something pretty bland (especially as he is writing the screenplay too).

Proof Bryan Singer sucks:

X-Men
Superman Returns
(I can't believe WB didn't boot him when they saw what he was doing)
Jack the Giant Slayer

And Days of Future Past was a noticeable step back after First Class, which benefitted from Matthew Vaughn's superior direction.


I pretty much agree with all of that. X men 2 was ok but of the film's you cite, only the first X Men was just any good and that was more down to the performances and the screenplay by David Hayter. Days of Future Past was actually no better than the much-maligned Last Stand and as for Superman Returns, I consider that movie almost unwatchable - just about everything g is wrong with it and literally the only thing I liked was the opening credits homage to Dick Donner's infinitely superior Superman: The Movie.

And Jack The Giant Killer was hysterically bad.

Singer will ruin 20,000 Leauges.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2015 - 12:56 AM   
 By:   Membership Expired   (Member)

. Every Replicant had strength, but Deckard had not and only got lucky killing Leon and Priss (and that stripper who I can´t remember the name of) Wouldn´t Deckard have that strength too then?


Racheal didnt have strength, or she would have been able to fend of Deckards rough advances.

And she was confirmed beyond a doubt to have been a Replicant. So that theory doesnt hold.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2015 - 2:46 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

That Scott implied Deckard was a replicant, is fairly common knowledge. Especially in the director's cut, as previously mentioned. In fact, the 'paper unicorn' that remained in the theatrical cut is rather out-of-place, considering the unicorn flashback was cut out. As it is, it just stands a souvenir of Gaff's visit to the apartment and nothing more.

So yeah -- I'd be interested in seeing Scott and Villeneuve pursue that path in the sequel. The idea of a person not knowing he's a replicant/android has always intrigued me.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2015 - 3:00 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

That Scott implied Deckard was a replicant, is fairly common knowledge. Especially in the director's cut, as previously mentioned. In fact, the 'paper unicorn' that remained in the theatrical cut is rather out-of-place, considering the unicorn flashback was cut out. As it is, it just stands a souvenir of Gaff's visit to the apartment and nothing more.

So yeah -- I'd be interested in seeing Scott and Villeneuve pursue that path in the sequel. The idea of a person not knowing he's a replicant/android has always intrigued me.


I didn't think anything of the origami unicorn the countless times I saw "Blade Runner" without the unicorn dream inserted. Gaff is making weird origami figures throughout the entire film, so why would another one imply anything specific in regards to Deckard? If anything, wouldn't it be a "message" (if indeed it had any deeper meaning) aimed at Rachel, and not Deckard? After all, it was *her* that he allowed to live.

And why is all this news to Harrison Ford? So Ridley Scott didn't tell his main actor what his character was about? That seems rather odd to me. All this stuff smacks of latter-day revisionism.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2015 - 4:18 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Sir Ridley is clear. The unicorn features in the Director's Cut. I never liked the shot because the slo-mo unicorn looks like a promotional advertisement insert in the movie - it tends to be at right angles to the plot advancement. That's clearly what the director intended. So we already know the answer.

It kind of makes sense in the story world. Replicants are not some sidelined group under discrimination. They are a manufactured, animated "meat" product with a specific short-term aim and are bred to fulfill some undisclosed strong-arm purpose requiring them to be extremely violent. They are "born" under deliberately inculcated delusions of which they are unaware. Rachael and Deckard are merely covertly legalized, softer experimental variants of the replicant product whose purpose remains a total mystery.

Roy Batty is something of a Promethean figure. Underlying the plot are ideas of moral hazard. Where all this goes remains to be seen.

Edit: Gaff's origami was an interesting character trait. He does not have a huge role in the original film and it's fairly obvious he's a right-hand man and something of a middling bureaucrat. I've always seen the origami as representative of the limited power he holds in that capacity. At the end of Blade Runner he crosses a departmental boundary with a form of bi-partisan collusion with Deckard because the latter proved he has become more than he was made to be.

Here is an interesting except from a book:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=UyAsYDcQkjIC&pg=PA50&lpg=PA50&dq=j.+f.+sebastian,+methuselah+syndrome&source=bl&ots=EdoxM70093&sig=sdiCk7P2mp_5ZdumMetR-MDkf68&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CF0Q6AEwDGoVChMIxIDNjMuZyAIVRAQaCh0xrwGO#v=onepage&q=j.%20f.%20sebastian%2C%20methuselah%20syndrome&f=false

Of the 22 listed films, I have seen 17.

 
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