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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      Non-Film Score Discussion: STAR TREK TOS Enterprise Shuttlecraft Question.     1 2    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 1:22 AM     By:   Zooba   (Member) What was the name of the Enterprise shuttlecraft that Commodore Decker flew into THE DOOMSDAY MACHINE destroying it and himself? Was it the COLUMBUS? We know that the GALILEO burned up in THE GALILEO SEVEN. The GALILEO II appeared in THE WAY TO EDEN.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 2:23 AM     By:   Mike_J   (Member) It was never named in the episode but we know that Columbus was the 2nd shuttle craft in Galileo 7 but I have a vague recollection the Enterprisewas supposed to have a few shuttles on board so I don't know if Columbus was the one Decker pinched in Doomsday Machine.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 6:05 AM     By:   Adam.   (Member) Here's a few screen caps from the episode. The first three are likely stock shots from previous episodes. I can't make out the shuttle name. Perhaps the version with the revamped special effects (or a novelization) revealed the name?    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 6:23 AM     By:   Lee S   (Member) All the shots of the shuttlecraft actually moving were just reused from The Galileo Seven. As for the name of Decker's shuttlecraft, I don't think you can tell what it says in any of the shots used in the episode. But that's likely just coincidence. The shots of the shuttle arriving in Journey to Babel and leaving in The Immunity Syndrome show it reading "Galileo." No one thought of painting on the "II" until the third year. So within the context of the show, Starfleet was fine with just replacing and renaming destroyed shuttles with the same name as the old one...until later, when they started adding Roman numerals. (Or it was just the Columbus, which was never mentioned again.)    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 6:41 AM     By:   Adam.   (Member) Here's are shots from the remastered version. Can you make out the name?    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 9:41 AM     By:   Solium   (Member) Too blurry to make out but it looks like the writing reads "Galileo" on the side of the hull. If there was a Galileo "Seven" then there must have been a fleet of Galileo shuttles. Galileo "Eight", "Nine", "Ten", etc. I never understood why they came up with Galilieo II. Edit: If "Galileo II" didn't appear until the third season then I would argue, it was a new "model" or "upgrade" of the original craft which is why a "II" was added. So it would have been Galileo II One, Two , Three, etc. Here's more info: In the series, the Galileo was “destroyed” in “The Galileo Seven” episode, but returned in “The Doomsday Machine” (#35-presumably), “Metamorphosis” (#38), “Journey to Babel (#39) and “Immunity Syndrome” (#47- where it was destroyed again). It appeared as the “Galileo II” in the third season episode “Way to Eden” (#75). It was easier and inexpensive to paint “II” on the mock-up than re-letter a new name and designation; but because of the continuity overlook of its second destruction, it should have been “Galileo II” in “Metamorphosis” and “Galileo III” in “Way to Eden”. Source: http://www.startrek.com/article/the-shuttlecraft-galileo-part-2    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 10:26 AM     By:   Adam.   (Member) Too blurry to make out but it looks like the writing reads "Galileo" on the side of the hull. If there was a Galileo "Seven" then there must have been a fleet of Galileo shuttles. Galileo "Eight", "Nine", "Ten", etc. I never understood why they came up with Galilieo II. "The Galileo Seven" refers to the seven crew members aboard. Here's more info: In the series, the Galileo was “destroyed” in “The Galileo Seven” episode, but returned in “The Doomsday Machine” (#35-presumably), “Metamorphosis” (#38), “Journey to Babel (#39) and “Immunity Syndrome” (#47- where it was destroyed again). The shuttlecraft was not destroyed in "The Immunity Syndrome"    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 10:35 AM     By:   Solium   (Member) "The Galileo Seven" refers to the seven crew members aboard. Ah, learn something new everyday!    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 12:09 PM     By:   Zooba   (Member) I always knew that the title referred to the crew members, but it also should be noted that the numbering on the ship itself, does have a "7" following the Enterprise ID Number ala NCC-1701/7 and don't forget: "I AM IN COMMAND MR. GAETANO!"    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 12:15 PM     By:   Zooba   (Member) On a topic away from "Shuttlecraft" but concerning the THE GALILEO SEVEN episode itself, didn't anyone think Spock's pulling out of the spear from the killed crew member's (Lieutenant Latimer) back was a little jarring? This always makes me shutter when I watch. I mean the guy was already dead, but Spock just yanks that sucker out like there's no tomorrow. And there'd be a bloody mess as well I would figure and big hole in the guys back. That arrowhead was massive!    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 12:17 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) I always knew that the title referred to the crew members, but it also should be noted that the numbering on the ship itself, does have a "7" following the Enterprise ID Number ala NCC-1701/7 and don't forget: "I AM IN COMMAND MR. GAETANO!" You spared me from great embarrassment! So the Doomsday Machine shuttle has a "/6" on it which would make it Galileo 6.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 12:35 PM     By:   Adam.   (Member) The shuttlecraft number in the TOS "Doomsday Machine" is also 7 because it was stock footage from "Galileo Seven". The remastered "Doomsday" episode clearly has it as 6. Zooba is correct. The "Galileo Seven" shuttle is numbered 7.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 12:52 PM     By:   Zooba   (Member) TRIVIA QUESTION Which Star Trek TOS composer wrote the "Shuttlecraft" Theme and Launching Music that always accompanied the Shuttlecraft scenes in the various episodes?    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 12:53 PM     By:   Adam.   (Member) On a topic away from "Shuttlecraft" but concerning the THE GALILEO SEVEN episode itself, didn't anyone think Spock's pulling out of the spear from the killed crew member's (Lieutenant Latimer) back was a little jarring? This always makes me shutter when I watch. I mean the guy was already dead, but Spock just yanks that sucker out like there's no tomorrow. And there'd be a bloody mess as well I would figure and big hole in the guys back. That arrowhead was massive! Yeah, you'd think there would be some meat hangin' off it.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 1:15 PM     By:   Zooba   (Member) That arrowhead is bigger than Gaetano's head! Latimer should have been split into two pieces. I think Gaetano is looking at remnants of what Latimer had for lunch. GROSS. I don't think I'd let Spock do a colonoscopy on me. Maybe just a Spanish Tap Dance around my head.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 1:25 PM     By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member) This is the best shot I could get of the shuttle off the Blu-Ray, from 37:32. Looks like Einstein, although whoever thought to use a cursive font on a hull decal was being needlessly whimsical. I much prefer the USAF-styled lettering Starfleet tended to use in those days; not to mention it's a heck of a lot easier to read.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 1:29 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) On a topic away from "Shuttlecraft" but concerning the THE GALILEO SEVEN episode itself, didn't anyone think Spock's pulling out of the spear from the killed crew member's (Lieutenant Latimer) back was a little jarring? This always makes me shutter when I watch. I mean the guy was already dead, but Spock just yanks that sucker out like there's no tomorrow. And there'd be a bloody mess as well I would figure and big hole in the guys back. That arrowhead was massive! I suppose this was more of a rhetorical question. But as Spock famously said in ST2 TWOK, "The needs of the many out weighs the needs of the few." Also if I recall correctly, in the episode itself other members were upset with Spock because he didn't want to take the time or run the risk of giving their fallen comrade a "dignified" burial under those circumstances. His actions were logical.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 1:35 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) This is the best shot I could get of the shuttle off the Blu-Ray, from 37:32. Looks like Einstein, although whoever thought to use a cursive font on a hull decal was being needlessly whimsical. I much prefer the USAF-styled lettering Starfleet tended to use in those days; not to mention it's a heck of a lot easier to read. You win the price! http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Einstein_%282267%29    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 3:31 PM     By:   Heath   (Member) That arrowhead is bigger than Gaetano's head! Latimer should have been split into two pieces. I think Gaetano is looking at remnants of what Latimer had for lunch. GROSS. I don't think I'd let Spock do a colonoscopy on me. Maybe just a Spanish Tap Dance around my head. In the scene before that one there's a shot of Gaetano letting rip with his phaser. It has some optical mist overlaid at the bottom of the frame that I've always suspected was added in post to obscure the state of Latimer's body. Could the director have gone over the top with blood 'n' gore resulting in the studio censoring the shot?    Posted:   Mar 15, 2015 - 3:38 PM     By:   Zooba   (Member) Looks like Spock might have just pulled it out of a bucket of red colored mud or wet play dough. It would have been a cool question for Leonard Nimoy about what the actual logistics were. Logically he appears to be yanking it out of something that has a pretty strong grip on it.     Non-Film Score Discussion: STAR TREK TOS Enterprise Shuttlecraft Question.    < 1 2  > >>  Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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