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 Posted:   Oct 4, 2014 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Hi all,

I did a detailed comparison of the Fanderson 1998 2-CD edition of "Space: 1999" (Year One) with the new 2014 3-CD edition.

You can download it here. (It's a PDF.)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/96fsw78vdjoar7f/Fanderson%20Space%201999%20CD%20comparisons.pdf?dl=0

Condition of use: you don't hold me responsible for mistakes.

The bottom line is the 2-CD edition may actually be the best representation of Barry Gray's own music for the series because while the 3-CD is more complete overall and contains more of Gray's electronic effects, the 2-CD still contains the original version of "Paradise Lost" and the 2-CD contains the tracks as recorded, without inserts and (as in the case of "Regina's World") over-writes.

That said, I still love the 3-CD and, as I said, it is obviously more complete overall.

And I wish to recruit the help of fans. There are a few bits on the 1998 2-CD which I've highlighted as not being found (by me) on the 3-CD edition. But am I wrong? I'm looking for people to help me try and spot where the things I can't find might be.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2014 - 8:16 AM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

Hi all,

I did a detailed comparison of the Fanderson 1998 2-CD edition of "Space: 1999" (Year One) with the new 2014 3-CD edition.

You can download it here. (It's a PDF.)

That said, I still love the 3-CD and, as I said, it is obviously more complete overall.



I downloaded your PDF. Thanks, Koenig boy!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2014 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

And neither are as good as the LP, with the between-track space effects and the two awesome library tracks. smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2014 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   Warunsun   (Member)

Nice document Stephen. This reminds me that I have never watched "Space: 1999" and I am a sci-fi fan. Somehow it has always escaped my time. I wonder if it is available at an affordable price on bluray in the states?

How would you compare this show to other genre titles? Is it an action show setup with sci-fi or more drama? Or one of those shows with whiz-bang happenings?

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2014 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   Warunsun   (Member)

Nice document Stephen. This reminds me that I have never watched "Space: 1999" and I am a sci-fi fan. Somehow it has always escaped my time. I wonder if it is available at an affordable price on bluray in the states?

How would you compare this show to other genre titles? Is it an action show setup with sci-fi or more drama? Or one of those shows with whiz-bang happenings?


And PS: Did it have an ending episode?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2014 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)



The bottom line is the 2-CD edition may actually be the best representation of Barry Gray's own music for the series because while the 3-CD is more complete overall and contains more of Gray's electronic effects, the 2-CD still contains the original version of "Paradise Lost" and the 2-CD contains the tracks as recorded, without inserts and (as in the case of "Regina's World") over-writes.

That said, I still love the 3-CD and, as I said, it is obviously more complete overall.

And I wish to recruit the help of fans. There are a few bits on the 1998 2-CD which I've highlighted as not being found (by me) on the 3-CD edition. But am I wrong? I'm looking for people to help me try and spot where the things I can't find might be.

Cheers



I think your rundown is accurate, Stephen. I think there are a couple of pieces not on this edition that were on the 1998 release. The comments I made on the CD on the Fanderson forum:


It's a most enjoyable set. I'm not so fussed on some of Barry's electronic effects away from the visuals, but included on the CD, they do paint a picture of the episodes in question. There's some nice attention to detail, including a recreation of Paul Morrow/Prentis Hancock's little guitar solo in The Black Sun (not having seen the episode for a while I'm unsure how close a rendition it is).

The sitar music in 'The Troubled Spirit' adds to the general air of menace in that episode and its nice to hear a bit more of the music. Again, the piece originally titled 'Atonement' in the first CD set has been manipulated sonically to give the same sort of feel as in the episode although I'm undecided if it wouldn't have been better to leave it alone. That said, it's included on the original CD set in the as-recorded form, so anyone who doesn't like the approach here can edit that earlier version in.

Some of their library pieces in their longer form prove that the music editor Alan Willis really was an unsung hero in the production of the series (both seasons). I was quite surprised, when listening to the full length version of 'Macrocosm', how pastoral in nature some of that music actually is, given that you don't hear more than a few bars of it in the series.

I wasn't that keen on the music from most of the compilation films (or the films themselves), important though they were in the years when no Space:1999 was on the telly, and you couldn't otherwise get the series on video. The music chosen for Alien Attack was great library music (I love the full length version of Nick Ingman's Giant's Causeway) but totally inappropriate for the film in question, while Richard Hill's linking music went fairly well with Barry Gray's score but was, by comparision to Barry's, completely nondescript. And the less said about Keith Mansfield's disco-tastic end title the better wink

There's a fair bit of music from other Gerry Anderson series scored by Barry Gray and again, your mileage may vary. Personally I always found it a bit distracting hearing well-remembered pieces from other series in Space:1999 but heigh-ho, that was the way he worked I guess....

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2014 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

Is the blu ray release of Space:1999 deleted? Amazon US only have it listed through third party sellers.

http://www.amazon.com/Space-1999-Season-1-Blu-ray/dp/B003ES5JDI/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1412452856&sr=1-1&keywords=space+1999

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2014 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

No ending episode as such, but there was this...

http://youtu.be/nox6XjsS7Bs

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2014 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

How would you compare this show to other genre titles? Is it an action show setup with sci-fi or more drama? Or one of those shows with whiz-bang happenings?

In my assessment, SPACE: 1999 is not an action show, although some segments address war in space with emphasis on explosions and model ship photography.
SPACE: 1999 is not quite human drama, either.
I'd describe my favorite aspects of this program as metaphysical and atmospheric.

My top half-dozen episodes from the 1st season are:

  • END OF ETERNITY
  • THE TROUBLED SPIRIT
  • FORCE OF LIFE
  • DRAGON'S DOMAIN
  • THE FULL CIRCLE
  • EARTHBOUND

    ,,, and I've got 2 faves from the 2nd season:

  • NEW ADAM, NEW EVE
  • THE LAMBDA FACTOR

    The reason why I like these the most is because the scriptwriters/directors created environments and moods which depict humanity as "lost" in a mysterious universe in which phenomena transpires (many times without any explanations or with humans' failure to comprehend).

    In this sense, SPACE: 1999 is thematically an opposite of a series such as STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION which relies a lot on techno-babble and story threads tied up neatly for resolution by the episode's end.

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     Posted:   Feb 14, 2015 - 5:47 AM   
     By:   jkannry   (Member)

    Hi all,

    I did a detailed comparison of the Fanderson 1998 2-CD edition of "Space: 1999" (Year One) with the new 2014 3-CD edition.

    You can download it here. (It's a PDF.)

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/96fsw78vdjoar7f/Fanderson%20Space%201999%20CD%20comparisons.pdf?dl=0

    Condition of use: you don't hold me responsible for mistakes.

    The bottom line is the 2-CD edition may actually be the best representation of Barry Gray's own music for the series because while the 3-CD is more complete overall and contains more of Gray's electronic effects, the 2-CD still contains the original version of "Paradise Lost" and the 2-CD contains the tracks as recorded, without inserts and (as in the case of "Regina's World") over-writes.

    That said, I still love the 3-CD and, as I said, it is obviously more complete overall.

    And I wish to recruit the help of fans. There are a few bits on the 1998 2-CD which I've highlighted as not being found (by me) on the 3-CD edition. But am I wrong? I'm looking for people to help me try and spot where the things I can't find might be.

    Cheers

    The link no longer works. Any chance of reposting?

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 14, 2015 - 5:50 AM   
     By:   jkannry   (Member)

    Nice document Stephen. This reminds me that I have never watched "Space: 1999" and I am a sci-fi fan. Somehow it has always escaped my time. I wonder if it is available at an affordable price on bluray in the states?

    How would you compare this show to other genre titles? Is it an action show setup with sci-fi or more drama? Or one of those shows with whiz-bang happenings?


    And PS: Did it have an ending episode?

    It did not have an ending episode though novelizations postulated that one season 2 episode could be end. Modified story to use it as end.

     
     Posted:   Feb 14, 2015 - 7:16 AM   
     By:   Heath   (Member)

    In this sense, SPACE: 1999 is thematically an opposite of a series such as STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION which relies a lot on techno-babble and story threads tied up neatly for resolution by the episode's end.

    That's right. In a way, Space 1999 and Star Trek are respectively very British and very American in as much as the crew of Space 1999 are in imminent danger, even on a quiet day, because of their floating island environment and scarse resources. While the Trek crew have EVERYTHING under control most of the time, and unlimited resources. I dare say this is a reflection of real life history and economics, especially arising from the trauma of WW2.

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 14, 2015 - 7:59 AM   
     By:   jkannry   (Member)

    In this sense, SPACE: 1999 is thematically an opposite of a series such as STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION which relies a lot on techno-babble and story threads tied up neatly for resolution by the episode's end.

    That's right. In a way, Space 1999 and Star Trek are respectively very British and very American in as much as the crew of Space 1999 are in imminent danger, even on a quiet day, because of their floating island environment and scarse resources. While the Trek crew have EVERYTHING under control most of the time, and unlimited resources. I dare say this is a reflection of real life history and economics, especially arising from the trauma of WW2.


    And a lot more exposition and less resolution(British) vs action and resolution (US). As I get older I appreciate the British approach more though it bored me as a kid. I remember how space 1999 showed every step of landing etc. Still like the U.S. approach but British one has grown on me.

     
     Posted:   Feb 14, 2015 - 10:37 AM   
     By:   Last Child   (Member)

    In this sense, SPACE: 1999 is thematically an opposite of a series such as STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION which relies a lot on techno-babble and story threads tied up neatly for resolution by the episode's end.

    Usually people compare Space:1999 with Star Trek:TOS since they're from around the same time. Not sure it makes any sense to bring up Next Gen.

     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2018 - 10:29 AM   
     By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

    Forgive me if there's another thread I've missed, but I did do my best Googling to find it. Can Stephen W. or anyone else do a comparison between the newer Fanderson SPACE: 1999 sets and the two Silva releases? Does one miss anything if one doesn't keep the Silva releases in favour of the newer Fanderson releases?

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2018 - 1:04 PM   
     By:   (Member)   (Member)

    Forgive me if there's another thread I've missed, but I did do my best Googling to find it. Can Stephen W. or anyone else do a comparison between the newer Fanderson SPACE: 1999 sets and the two Silva releases? Does one miss anything if one doesn't keep the Silva releases in favour of the newer Fanderson releases?

    The Silva release is a sampler. The Fanderson release is the complete thing.

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2018 - 2:21 PM   
     By:   peterproud   (Member)

    Has the original LP ever been released on disc?

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2018 - 2:55 PM   
     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

    Has the original LP ever been released on disc?

    I don't think so. One of the two library tracks is on one of the Easy Project compilations, with a different title. I can confirm details later.

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2018 - 11:27 PM   
     By:   peterproud   (Member)

    Has the original LP ever been released on disc?

    I don't think so. One of the two library tracks is on one of the Easy Project compilations, with a different title. I can confirm details later.


    Thanks for the info. One of my favourite LP's growing up...strange it didn't get a CD release.

     
     Posted:   Feb 27, 2018 - 6:55 AM   
     By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

    The Silva release is a sampler. The Fanderson release is the complete thing.

    Thanks, "Member." I had read somewhere that there may actually be bits of cues on the Silva that didn't make it to the Fanderson sets. Perhaps that was an error?

     
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