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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3      General Discussion: Raiders of the Lost Ark cd 1995 vs 2008     1 2 3    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 5:23 PM     By:   jmarc   (Member) I bought what I thought was the 2008 score off eBay & received the 1995 cd. Incorrectly listed. Is there much of a difference in sound? I can live without bonus tracks for now & will buy a boxset later. I just wanted to know if the 1995 cd holds up. Thanks!    Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 5:25 PM     By:   mstrox   (Member) The 1995 release is the only album with the original/unedited Desert Chase, so you have a keeper! As far as sound quality, I can never tell any difference but people seem to have complaints with speed/pitch issues in the 2008 release, if I remember correctly.    Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 5:57 PM     By:   jmarc   (Member) Works for me! That's one of favorite tracks so that's great!    Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 6:25 PM     By:   Adam.   (Member) I think there is a significant difference in sound quality. The Desert Chase track is the only cue on my burned CD (from the DCC release) mostly made up of tracks from the Concord box set and I can really hear a drop in quality in that one track when listening to the whole thing.    Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 7:10 PM     By:   rickO   (Member) The 2008 release may have the edited down "Desert Chase" but it also contains a smattering of cues not on the 1995 edition. "Bad Dates" and "Swinging on a Rope" cues I believe. -Rick O.    Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 8:00 PM     By:   jmarc   (Member) This is one of the soundtracks I've always wanted but never owned. I haven't had a chance to listen to the entire 1995 cd but it seems ok. I was concerned that the later release might have a richer sound. I'm going to word this wrong but Williams' scores always have a deep sound I love. I don't just hear the brassy instruments on top. I hear the timpani & the lower instruments. I love that richness! I can live without a few extra tracks for now if the sound is good.    Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 9:00 PM     By:   Wedge   (Member) The thing is, the Concord set DOES arguably have a "richer" sound than the DCC. Compare the bass presence in the "Map Room" cue -- if memory serves, the Concord packs a lot more punch. It also has some music not on the DCC, my favorite being the vital first appearance of the Ark theme. Where the Concord suffers by comparison is some clunky album edits and a lack of attention to pitch. The DCC is worth having for the uncut "Desert Chase" alone. The bottom line is that neither release is truly definitive, and I'd be hard pressed if I had to pick just one to keep.    Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 11:02 PM     By:   TerraEpon   (Member) bl;ah blah blah desert chase blah blah blah 46 seconds blah blah blah    Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 11:05 PM     By:   TerraEpon   (Member) bl;ah blah blah desert chase blah blah blah 46 seconds blah blah blah    Posted:   Mar 9, 2014 - 1:56 AM     By:   Spymaster   (Member) The Concord release has MUCH better quality but is the wrong pitch. The DCC has poorer sound but contains the full version of Desert Chase - one of the finest single action cues of all time. Sadly neither is definitive. Dammit.    Posted:   Mar 9, 2014 - 6:03 AM     By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member) bl;ah blah blah desert chase blah blah blah 46 seconds blah blah blah It's a good 46 seconds.    Posted:   Mar 9, 2014 - 6:35 AM     By:   thommy   (Member) I bought what I thought was the 2008 score off eBay & received the 1995 cd. Incorrectly listed. Is there much of a difference in sound? I can live without bonus tracks for now & will buy a boxset later. I just wanted to know if the 1995 cd holds up. Thanks! The DCC compact disc was a dissapointment for me soundwise. The double lp that came out at the same time sounds ( wich i also own ) great but to my ears theirs a muffeld sound to the cd and i find it hard to listen to. I love the crisp clear and rich sound of the concord disc and i prefer the edited version of the Desert chase. the muscical flow is much better in my opinion. The original 40 minutes or so presentasion of the score, first on lp then later on cd is also great. Own them all and love the score. From all the versions the DCC cd has gotten little playtime from me only because of the off putting sound quality. Its almost the same as with Poltergeist. The Rhino sound is muffeld and displeasing, the FSM is vibrant and alive. If you like a great and warm sound then i can recommend the concord. Hope this helps. Greetings    Posted:   Mar 9, 2014 - 6:48 AM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) The Concord release has MUCH better quality but is the wrong pitch. The DCC has poorer sound but contains the full version of Desert Chase - one of the finest single action cues of all time. Sadly neither is definitive. Dammit. IMO the LP edit of Desert Chase remains the best presentation of that masterful cue (which I have on the ancient Japanese gold edition CD). I don't know anyone who shares that opinion, though. I never bothered with the Concord stuff because of all the squawking around here about incorrect pitch though I doubt I would even notice the problem. The DCC always sounded quite good to me and it's surprising to read the negative remarks about that godsend of a release (one of the happiest days of my film score-loving life, actually).    Posted:   Mar 9, 2014 - 8:22 AM     By:   Erik Woods   (Member) IMO the LP edit of Desert Chase remains the best presentation of that masterful cue (which I have on the ancient Japanese gold edition CD). I'm curious as to why you think that way. I always felt that the edits in the LP presentation of Desert Chase to be clunky, extremely distracting and unmusical. I always wondered why Williams felt the need to edit out those 46 seconds. BTW, I always felt that Steve Hoffman's mastering of the DCC Raiders was superb... at least to my ears. -Erik-    Posted:   Mar 9, 2014 - 9:11 AM     By:   Col. Flagg   (Member) BTW, I always felt that Steve Hoffman's mastering of the DCC Raiders was superb... at least to my ears. The DCC version has always sounded closest to the audio picture in my head of what the film sounds like (based on the 35mm Dolby A and 70mm six track Dolby A versions - not the many subsequent releases.) The mastering is bold in character and that's doesn't make for as passive a listening experience as other discs.    Posted:   Mar 9, 2014 - 9:47 AM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) IMO the LP edit of Desert Chase remains the best presentation of that masterful cue (which I have on the ancient Japanese gold edition CD). I'm curious as to why you think that way. I always felt that the edits in the LP presentation of Desert Chase to be clunky, extremely distracting and unmusical. I always wondered why Williams felt the need to edit out those 46 seconds. IMO, the edit is ideal as a stand-alone listening experience. That extra build up we have with the DCC version is one build (I don't know the time in the cue; I'd have to hear the DCC version again) up too many, especially for one such as myself who heard the album edit so many times but it's more than mere nostalgia or what I'm used to hearing. I can understand it being necessary within the film itself as that was how it was written but that extra build up part takes away from the power of the cue. Hope this makes sense.    Posted:   Mar 9, 2014 - 9:48 AM     By:   Merkel   (Member) Pitch issues and jarring edits aside, the concorde does sound so much better. Just compare the climax of the Map Room: Dawn. You choir is so much richer in the Concorde. And those last two, quieter, renditions of the Ark Theme at the end of said track...before the Concorde cd, I hadn't even realised they had a choir accompaniment    Posted:   Mar 9, 2014 - 11:43 AM     By:   Erik Woods   (Member) IMO, the edit is ideal as a stand-alone listening experience. That extra build up we have with the DCC version is one build (I don't know the time in the cue; I'd have to hear the DCC version again) up too many, especially for one such as myself who heard the album edit so many times but it's more than mere nostalgia or what I'm used to hearing. I can understand it being necessary within the film itself as that was how it was written but that extra build up part takes away from the power of the cue. Hope this makes sense. You have made sense and I don't agree that the "extra" build up takes away from the power of the cue. If you taking any part of The Desert Chase away it robs the listener of what Williams was trying to accomplish with his music. It's a complete slow burn during the latter half of the track and by snipping it here and there the listener misses out on one of Williams best conducted pieces! Those missing pieces are essential to the power of the cue! -Erik-    Posted:   Mar 9, 2014 - 7:34 PM     By:   Steve H   (Member) Ive always preferred the DCC version. Granted , in comparison the concorde may sound a little clearer and crisper, but the DCC features detail and instrumentation not present on the concorde or original albums, (Ill cite Flight from Peru, The Basket game,The Map Room, Desert Chase and Miracle Of the Ark as examples). This may be a result of the mastering, but it also may be a case of using different takes. It was noted that the Concorde box used the original album tracks where applicable. In any case, to my ears, those DCC tracks sound exactly as they do in the film.    Posted:   Mar 9, 2014 - 8:43 PM     By:   jmarc   (Member) I listened to the cd a bit today & am fairly pleased. I did expect a bit more bass at times but that's based on my memory of the film. The first time I listened to it was in my car. Not the safest move listening to this score while driving!!! Lol! Popped it in at home & it sounded nice. I'll have to pick up the later disk at some point though. Thanks for the discussion!!     General Discussion: Raiders of the Lost Ark cd 1995 vs 2008    < 1 2 3  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3

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