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 Posted:   Dec 12, 2016 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

He actually talked about that already during FFM gathering he attended either video or perhaps at least audio recording might be still available online... although he went into more details now with the test screenings actually being done simultaneously in the same multiplex, which I don't think was mentioned before...

Either way... it was a cool Q+A but wish it was longer... smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2016 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

He always looks so cool and detached in his pictures; it was really endearing to see him be so awkward and shy in front of an audience. At one point he mentioned having horrible stage fright.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2016 - 1:26 PM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

I note the film grossed an impressive $3m at the box office. Perhaps, just perhaps, the problem with it in its earlier showings wasn't James Horner's music.

 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2016 - 2:28 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Well it cut out too much of the Shakespeare (and annoyingly added in some non-Shakespeare) but my wife and I saw the film in theater and quite enjoyed it, thanks to the gorgeous music, production, and cinematography. And Paul Giamatti as Friar Lawrence was great.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2020 - 5:56 PM   
 By:   RustyNail   (Member)

Someone posted what appears to be James Horners score on Youtube today.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2020 - 6:00 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Horner's score is on Youtube.

Though it's appallingly derivative, it's arranged such that the self-plagiarism is 90% bearable.

As for Korzeniowski's … I just kept hearing Desplat's "New Moon" score.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2020 - 6:42 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Was not expecting to hear SNEAKERS within the first three minutes of this.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2020 - 6:43 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Is the Danger Motif present...?

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2020 - 7:04 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Is the Danger Motif present...?

Yes, but not in its usual danger guise; it's used here the way it's used in SNEAKERS, more as a call than a response.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2020 - 7:17 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Listening to the beginning...Jesus Fucking Christ, Horner still recycling Sneakers note-for-note two decades later. No wonder it was thrown out.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2020 - 7:47 PM   
 By:   Grack21   (Member)

I like it. *shrug*

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2020 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

“You know I could’ve joined the Capulets. But they found out my parents were married.”

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2020 - 8:03 PM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

Just screened this (I'm a Film projectionist) and heard Sneakers, Apollo 13 and The Pelican Brief everywhere in the score and it doesn't sound like the original scores cut into a temp track. Sounds like all new score, but heavily influenced by the above three. Weird!

Horner recorded the score this past December, but it sounds so much like his mid-90's work.


Yup! 7 years later. That's what I heard screening the movie with Horner's score.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 12:04 AM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

Horner is my second favourite composer and I'm a Horner apologist but even I have to say that while it's a pleasant music it has probably only a couple of original musical minutes. The sax sound from Sneakers doesn't fit the film at all. Korzeniowski's effort is much better, one of the best scores from that particular year.

That doesn' mean, however, that I wouldn't buy Horner's score on CD if it was ever released. smile

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   Luc Van der Eeken   (Member)

It's true, there a lot of Hornerisms but there's also a lot of lovely and unashamedly romantic stuff that I really like. He's been always been one of my favorite composers. But truth be told, Korzeniowski's better.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 8:14 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I haven’t heard the replacement score, but I love what I’m hearing from Horner here. Yeah, it’s derivative, but it’s damn good.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 9:33 AM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

Horner's score really does sound like it climbed right out of a 1990s romance film - as does the song - but as everybody else has said, a great deal of it is unfortunately a thinly veiled "greatest hits." However... it's melodic & beautifully performed/orchestrated, which automatically makes it better than just about every modern Hollywood romance score.

The music editor on the film said this in an interview:

"Due to a disagreement amongst producers and a disappointing reaction to early screenings James’s score was replaced to save the movie. It didn’t help."

I admire Korzeniowski - and I love "Escape From Tomorrow" - but his replacement score sounded like it was (stylistically) following a Michael Nyman or Max Richter temp track, which is an approach to scoring that personally doesn't interest me these days.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

tracklist:

1. Juliet’s Dream
2. Forbidden Love
3. Queen Mab
4. The Cheek of Night
5. First Kiss
6. Trooping With Crows
7. A Thousand Times Good Night
8. Come, Gentle Night
9. Wedding Vows
10. Fortune’s Fool
11. From Ancient Grudge
12. Death is My Heir
13. Tempt Not a Desperate Man
14. The Crypt (Part 1)
15. The Crypt (Part 2)
16. Eternal Love


The version I found has only 14 tracks... What´s the difference?

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   RustyNail   (Member)

tracklist:

1. Juliet’s Dream
2. Forbidden Love
3. Queen Mab
4. The Cheek of Night
5. First Kiss
6. Trooping With Crows
7. A Thousand Times Good Night
8. Come, Gentle Night
9. Wedding Vows
10. Fortune’s Fool
11. From Ancient Grudge
12. Death is My Heir
13. Tempt Not a Desperate Man
14. The Crypt (Part 1)
15. The Crypt (Part 2)
16. Eternal Love


The version I found has only 14 tracks... What´s the difference?


Thats the tracklist for Abel Korzeniowski's Album

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Track timings would help. It's quite possible a splice job is involved here.

 
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