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 Posted:   Apr 14, 2009 - 3:13 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

If you like great sci-fi music from Intrada, pick up THE LOST WORLD/FIVE WEEKS IN A BALLOON. It's just as enjoyable as the new Baxter release. Had Intrada listed it at 1,000 copies, it might very well have sold out right away. Obviously, that extra 200 makes a big difference...

You have to consider that when it was released, the 'market' was very different. Things DIDN'T sell that fast, and most of the time releases get 'forgotten' over time (simply by virtue of people less likely to think about them if they didn't buy em).
These days, ANY limited score will sell faster, it's as simple as that. It's why Intrada was VERY off in their reasoning on the whole Inchon thing.


 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2009 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

"You have to consider that when it was released, the 'market' was very different."

The flaw in that statement is that if the market has changed, then the mentality of the new market should apply to rare items released just before the market changed. If 1,200 copies of limited-editions will sell out overnight now, then why aren't people buying the measley 1,200 copies of THE LOST WORLD that were pressed just a few years ago? The CD is just as rare as 1,200-unit pressings being issued now, and the music is just as good. The market should not refuse to buy a limited pressing done two years ago because for some reason, those 1,200 units are somehow different from 1,200 units in 2009! What's different about them? If your statement about recordings being "forgotten" after only two years is true, then all Intrada would have to do is post on their site that people should "remember" that they just released this two years ago and there are only 1,200 copies pressed -- according to that logic, it would then sell out in a mere few hours.

I guarantee you that if a soundtrack label discovered an extra 500 copies of a rare release like THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE, even though it was manufactured in the "old market," that it would sell out very fast. Simply because there is a desire for that particular title, regardless of when it was initially released. It isn't just the collector's mentality of the market that dictates sales -- once you get over that 1,000-unit minimum, it's the desire for a specific recording that is important. Not the composer, not the label, not much of anything other than whether the niche market cares about that particular recording. And all I'm stating is that the market cared to buy 1,000 copies of those two particular Baxter scores. There is no proof that other Baxter scores would sell better or worse based on how this release sold.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2009 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

In true Intrada fashion, I already received a shipment notice. This one's for you, hamsters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZBCcY0nJao

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2009 - 3:58 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

Oh, and thanks so much for the kind comments about our releases. We welcome you blogging away! We promise we will be doing more in the future -- we've been taking a break over the last two years to pursue a couple of other exciting avenues, details of one of which will be mentioned fairly soon, I should hope. But we are all in a tizzy about it.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2009 - 4:07 PM   
 By:   Jameson281   (Member)

We promise we will be doing more in the future

Hooray! I'll buy 'em all.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2009 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

There is no proof that other Baxter scores would sell better or worse based on how this release sold.

I must admit, it was my fondness for the film "Master of the World" that made me click that 'buy' button, more so than a great familiarity with the music; the score samples sounded cool, but it was my memory of seeing the movie in a rerun in the UK when I was about seven years old that made this an essential purchase.

It's been years since I saw "X - The Man with the X-Ray Eyes," but I loved that movie, too, albeit for different reasons (it terrified me on TV at about age 10). Not sure how this would stand up for me now, but I was wondering what this score is like, and would that be a possible future Baxter release?

But 'future' is the operative word, please, because my poor credit card is hemorrhaging!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2009 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Now sold out at Intrada. Unbelievable.

So much for the opinion regularly expressed by a few regulars around here that there is no interest in Les Baxter.

Maybe - assuming the tapes exist - we'll finally get the Poe scores or X.


As Charles Thaxton said, MGM's inventory of AIP tapes is very spotty, and while working on this release it was discovered that a number were either poor quality, incomplete or mislabeled. So don't get your hopes up.


I won't, but I also will not assume the worst just because no one has taken the time to dig deep enough. I know how archives work, and in addition to the air-conditioned rooms where everything is neatly labeled and shelved, there are as many rooms where things are in complete disarray. These are the rooms where "lost" recordings are often found.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2009 - 4:31 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Well in Europe Baxter is pretty big. His Poe scores are among the most requested scores from this period over here. I'm realy surprised Intrada made only 1,000 of this release. Even in Europe alone 2,000 copys would have been sold within a few weeks.

You are absolutely right. Les Baxter also has an audience in the US beyond the small group of "soundtrack buyers." Often these specialty labels seem unable or unwilling to step outside their comfort zone and reach anyone outside of their usual demographic. Once in a while, I'm surprised, but not often.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2009 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   sdtom   (Member)

http://sdtom.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/master-of-the-worldles-baxter/

I'm glad I have the material as I have been having some problems with my computer. I made the mistake of installing IE8. At least on my computer it didn't work well and the nightmare started. I'll have to get a new computer now.
I liked the score which is why I reviewed it in 2007.
Thomas

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2009 - 6:22 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

Since soundtrack labels are not producing what anybody wants them to produce or in what numbers, I suggest everyone start boycotting them. They're obviously screwing everything up all the time. After all, that's why this is the Golden Age of Soundtrack Collecting. Because all the labels are so consistently messing up big-time!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2009 - 6:28 PM   
 By:   soop   (Member)

Since soundtrack labels are not producing what anybody wants them to produce or in what numbers, I suggest everyone start boycotting them. They're obviously screwing everything up all the time. After all, that's why this is the Golden Age of Soundtrack Collecting. Because all the labels are so consistently messing up big-time!

Your sarcasm is always so helpful. Very professional.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2009 - 6:48 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

I made a living as a comedy writer for 25 years due to my sarcasm. It's hard to lose old habits, especially such profitable ones!

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2009 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I'm just happy the damned thing finally got released and delighted that I got one. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2009 - 12:36 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

MOTW is a dandy little score. I'm not surprised it's gone, and I'd venture a guess it would have sold out with a couple of hundred more copies.

Roger Feigelson of Intrada agrees that they should have made another 200 copies, although some believe that such largesse would have risked not selling the first 1,000.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2009 - 1:28 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

ah-HAH! I KNEW I was right.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2009 - 4:54 AM   
 By:   Grimsdyke   (Member)

Well, maybe every now and than Intrada has to satisfy speculators more than customers ?!?

http://tinyurl.com/cf7a8y

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2009 - 5:08 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Coming in late April from Movie Grooves:

http://www.moviegrooves.com/shop/spaceescapadelesbaxtercd.htm

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2009 - 5:34 AM   
 By:   Nick Haysom   (Member)

Coming in late April from Movie Grooves:

http://www.moviegrooves.com/shop/spaceescapadelesbaxtercd.htm


http://www.cherryred.co.uk/el/artists/lesbaxter.htm

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2009 - 5:35 AM   
 By:   Nick Haysom   (Member)

Well, maybe every now and than Intrada has to satisfy speculators more than customers ?!?

http://tinyurl.com/cf7a8y


I am going to be an eBay speculator when I grow up.

Then again, maybe I am too grown up to be an eBay speculator.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2009 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   panavision   (Member)

I wasn't planning on purchasing it, then I heard the clips... why not, heh? big grin

 
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